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Vietnam Airlines 787 Brakes During Takeoff? Airline Pilots Break Down the New Data

The Mover and Gonky Show

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On 15 August 2026 a Vietnam Airlines 787-9 departing Munich overran the runway during takeoff and lifted off from the grass. Preliminary German investigation data shows repeated brake pedal movement and braking commands during the takeoff roll.

What do you think? What could explain the brake inputs? Why did rotation begin below Vr? What stands out most about the crew’s actions? Let us know in the comments below!

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20 Comments

@fr.garrettnelson9920 2 days ago (edited)

I only have about 10 hours of flight time, but everyone I’ve ever flown with—instructor or friend—has always said “heels on the floor” before takeoff. This one blows my mind. I thought that was just SOP.

@Dyson_Cyberdynesystems 2 days ago

There's a serious problem here with Airmanship/Training/CRM and would not surprise me if there's an authority issue. And it's not one pilot. There were at least 3 in the cockpit ,including the flight PIC who was in the jump seat on takeoff but then got in the left seat for the flybys and landing. So in order, not aborting when things weren't nominal, clearly applying the brakes off the end of the runway, turning on the autopilot immediately after takeoff in an emergency, and then the lowering and raising the gear TWICE following the inspection flybys where the WHOLE point was to ensure things were down and locked. That's a lot of procedural mistakes with 4 very experienced pilots on board.

@Muz-64 2 days ago

Auto stall saved all on board right there 👀👏🕊

@peterclark8208 2 days ago

Retired 777/747 here .. I had to laugh when they said it could be new shoes ! It’s true.. takes a while to get used to a new pair of shoes! I used to say to the cabin crew… it’s my first landing in these pair of shoes! 😂

@gymbo230970 2 days ago

This what makes this channel great like to hear what the pro's have to say .

@robham3 2 days ago

Welcome to Vietnam! I flew with VNA for a number of years myself and you wouldn’t believe half the stories I would tell you. My first guess in this incident was uncommanded brake application via the aircraft itself. My second guess was someone riding the brakes, perhaps transitioning off the Airbus recently - yes you place your feet on the entire pedal on the Airbus. And I will tell you right now, “experience” that you are talking about here has absolutely no relevance there.. We had Vietnamese Captains there with a tremendous amount of “experience” but their basic flying was fundamentally flawed. This report is not surprising in the least.

@KenGrimm1949 2 days ago

I concur that Boeing's stall protection saved their butts.
What many have not noticed is that by extending the slats, the wing chord tilts down in front, reducing angle of attack.
(This is opposite of the effect of extending flaps, which though it increases lift, also increases AoA.)

@gatolibero8329 1 day ago

17:35 - When MCAS first showed up on the radar and Boeing sent two planes directly into the ground at full speed, that's was everyone thought too.

@ronduncan9527 1 day ago (edited)

How can you not know your feet are pushing on the top of the rudder pedals? Boeing’s flap system saved them by automatically putting the slats to full when the angle of attack was too high.

@nemthefearless 2 days ago

The comparison that springs to mind is the Yaroslavl air disaster. Super fortunate this time..

@NicolaW72 1 day ago (edited)

Thank you very much for the Update! - Yes, indeed, with this data it will become difficult to deny that the Human Factor played a crucial role in this case.

@w.janszoon 1 day ago

@19:21 Autobrakes won't activate below 85kts on takeoff, for the 787.

At TOGA with an engine failure at low speeds, the issue will be keeping the aircraft from launching off the side of the runway. You will not have autobrake below 85kts. You will not be worried about runaway length, but with full rudder input to keep straight and before you can get the thrust levers to idle, you may want differential braking. Something to consider.

@LandOwnerOnMars 2 days ago

Well, I have seen the car in front of me accelerate fast, but with the brake lights on! There is only 1 possible way to drive like that. 🤣🤣

@atenco01 2 days ago

Not the first time.. In Russia a hockey team was killed by a pilot that had medical issues with his legs and he unknowingly rode the breaks until the jet crashed at the end of the runway.. Lokomotiv Hockey tragedy.

@CarbonKevin 1 day ago

It's embarrassing and pathetic that in 2026 the CVR records for TWO HOURS before overwriting. My phone literally has enough storage for FIVE MONTHS of uncompressed CD quality audio. F'n disgraceful.

@ThePocketMedic 2 days ago

Seems like similar circumstances to the 2011 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash. One of the pilots in that crash apparently had a medical condition that may have reduced sensitivity in his lower extremities.

@css0076 2 days ago

I've found that newer "brake-by-wire" large aircraft don't really provide feedback at your feet, but the actual deceleration of the airplane makes up for it... maybe because of mass and brake power.

@JimmysSpeedShop 2 days ago

We've definitely had incidents with people riding the brakes on takeoff even at the airline level, wouldn't be a bad idea to monitor those brake pressures in the SIM, we might be surprised what we find out