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Fixing Hoenn's Gym Leaders

RoryTheFiend

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I love Pokemon Emerald, and all things considered, the Gym Leaders fair a bit better than the ones from the other games we've covered. That being said, there's always room for improvement, so lets delve into what Emerald does right, and wrong in regards to their Gym Leaders, thanks for watching :--)

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20 Comments

@Sheepblob 2 years ago (edited)

Hoenn has this issue where it feels like every gym is designed around having a single actually threatening pokemon and everything else is filler at worst and half ok support meant to make it slightly easier for the actually strong pokemon to sweep at best. Oh and then that actually "strong" pokemon half the time isn't even threatening anyways

The only exception I see is Emerald Tate and Liza where the entire team is relatively threatening, and if anything the actual "ace" pokemon feel like the filler to an extent, but still they're the rare actually good gym

@arrowblade_1238 2 years ago

I feel that you cant have 1 of the hoenn fossils without having the other one.

@PokemonWoop 2 years ago (edited)

Each day we get closer to seeing Fixing Gen 5's gym leaders/elite 4. Them limiting the teams to 3-4 sucks so much

@Guukoh 2 years ago

Removing Juan’s Whishcash is heartbreaking. Especially for a GenII Lanturn..

@IciLaraStudios 2 years ago (edited)

My understanding of Winona’s team in most of the games is that it heavily relies on type advantages. You could easily defeat Swablu/Swellow with a rock type, but her all of her remaining Pokemon have a counter for rock types. If Tropius is out, you would likely switch to a fire type, but then she could send out her Pelliper to counter the fire type. Winona’s strategy for her whole team is pretty much sending out a Pokemon that could counter your typing and force you to switch out. They likely gave Altaria earthquake to counter any electric types if Pelliper was defeated by one.

yes i watched a lot of truegreen7

@frapippo420 1 year ago

I would love a "Polished Emerald" hack rom with these gym leaders teams 😍

@thatoneuberedsoldier4505 1 year ago

Taking away both of tate and liza's sunny days makes them severely vulnerable to just running double surf (esp with sharpedo as a support option)

@DreadlordZolias 2 years ago

I was about to say "Why can't Manectric just get Ice Fang? Ice-type moves are special in this generation."

Then I remembered that the elemental fang moves came out in Gen 4.

@mirissauro 2 years ago

Bald Spinda caught me off guard 💀

@cronat8785 2 months ago (edited)

32:45 to be fair, sunny day lower water moves damage against the rest of the team that are ground/rock type

@sandragon13 1 year ago

A note on Gym 7’s pre-edit focus on Sunny Day. You note correctly that Solrock has “Sun-themed” moves but I think the inclusion of Sunny Day on it and especially Xatu is to make Water in general, and Rain Dance in particular, way less effective, since their aces are both very weak to Surf. By this point most players will have either a Swampert or some other Water type which will typically be running Surf, which is not only distributed widely but has good base power and targets both opponents in double battles.

@Smannawarp 2 years ago

44:23 Ah yes, Lanturn, my favorite water-ground type lol

Great video as always!

@TheRileyC 2 years ago

I continue to be impressed with how quickly you can put these videos together. Keep it up!

@VivioCA2 2 years ago

11:00 ~ Fun Fact: It's actually possible to find wild Pokemon below their evolution level. (An example from the top of my head: There are places in FireRed where you can fish Seadra below lvl 30)

@KraylebStudios 1 year ago

honestly this video gives me so much more inspiration to make my own rom hack

@JG.R-17 2 years ago

The problem I have with Roxanne is that she's close to a cave where no Geodude can be found, not even with Rock Smash.

@dreamfirefight9456 2 years ago

Well, for Roxanne, why the Magnet Pull ability on Nosepass? You can’t get a Steel-type until after the gym. You didn’t even include that ability in the new team composition; it still shows Sturdy.

For Flannery, why not give the Ninetales Hidden Power Grass? That would discourage Swampert sweeping the team. Magcargo could also work as a 4th team member.

For Juan, replacing the Whiscash for Masquerain leaves a problem: There’s no way to hit Electric types such as Manetric and Electrode super-effectively, as the only Pokémon with Earthquake on the original team was removed. I’d say the bring back the Whiscash with Earthquake, or maybe bring a Physical attacking Water type with some kind of Ground type attack.

@Skivv5 1 month ago

Haven't watched the video yet but I bet my firstborn's soul he leaves Wattson unchanged.

@tobiasgund8048 2 years ago

The easiest buff to Winona is taking Ice Beam away as an option before her again XD

@skibot9974 2 years ago

14:22 alternatively you could’ve given him a Chinchou or Lanturn (evolves at 27 which isn’t as ergigous as Magneton). It could have Water Pulse, Soark, Confuse Ray, and ice beam