It collapsed under the weight of apathetic ego and corporate mismanagement.

Writers and "creatives" who think they're too good, smart, and artistic for "children's comics", lacking any of the understanding or appreciation to adapt what they're made to. They only deconstruct.

They sand down and melt the ideas into a sludge for mass appeal to an audience that never did and never will care, only gargle the slop pipe of what is currently popular.

At every turn, DC is made less, and people expect less and tolerate it, and so nothing improves.

11:52 It’s important to emphasize that the 2019 Joker film wasn’t really a brainchild or product of the regime at that time, the execs and committee fought Todd Phillips while he was making it.

Joker’s success is in SPITE of that regime, not because of them lol.

I am still not over the fact that Ben Afflick never got his stand alone Batman movie

dc fucking up their cinema since 1992 needs to be studied

They keep fumbling because they don’t like the fact that they have to make superhero movies or tv shows with actual superheroes 😂😂💯

There is something that I think everyone kind of forgot or like intentionally ignored was back when people were asking if Batman versus Superman movie was gonna happen since at that point it has been highly requested Warner Brothers themselves specifically said “we would only do that if we ran out of ideas” and immediately within the next year that same movie was announced which kind of put them on a immediate back foot with their audience because they just made admission that that specific movie is only reserved for when they have no plans left..

Like Warner Brothers has a thing where they will unintentionally directly or indirectly let the audience know that their upcoming site of films is not important or is no longer a priority which immediately disincentives the audience from ever showing up day one to see whatever they produce.

The Batman version of my situation they said that movie was reserved for having no ideas, the Justice League vaccinator firing situation and complete scrapping of all of their plans. Being publicly announced pretty much killed all enthusiasm for any type of return on the Justice League box office, Warner Brothers literally announcing the end of the DCU ahead of time immediately killing the box office potential of every project that released afterwards.

Now where in a situation potentially where James Gunn might end up getting a little too uncomfortable with where he’s at and will decide to leave and throw the whole future of the DC brand into aimless jeopardy yet again. Especially when it’s well known that he is not very good terms with a certain executive that runs the company that purchased them, that information alone puts everyone who’s a fan of DC on edge knowing that any day now the whole DCU plan could fall apart if either James Gunn or the executive he’s got beef with ends up coming to blows and either one of them outright quits due to not being able to professionally work together any longer.. which is why everyone is kind of waiting with baited breath on whether or not detention in the air between the executive in question and James Gunn will either boil over or finally evaporate and cool down.. until we probably see everything is all well and good for the long haul. Everyone’s gonna have the back of their mind that this DCU is gonna be a temporary thing. That’s just buying the DCIP time before it eventually gets decommissioned or sold off when the inevitable crash DC IP happens.

Basically the short story is the drama behind-the-scenes between film creatives and the studio executives at Warner Brothers has always been very public and very ugly which has always turned customers away from ever staying invested in their upcoming slight of content, not just DC but with every single IP that’s under their WB umbrella. & until WB has definitively proven that they have permanently got their shit together and can competently steer the ship of the company into less rougher Waters without going through some icebergs. No one is going to want to hop on board until they can prove that they can be trusted not to fumble the bag and have to restructure every two to five years.

DC could've just start with Justice League movies I, II, III

With totally different tone, completely different villain / problem, NOT even TOUCHING anything from the Fourth World.
Just a reason for even a team of 3 - 5 to... team up.
Hell, they could've even started of with Justice Society if they wanted to catch up so desperately. And then introduce the big shots - giving DC time to work something new, giving Batman a needed big screen break.

THEY - JUST - HAD - NO - CLUE - WHAT - TO - DO

“You have to give everybody a chance to be established first. You have to give the audiences something to latch onto before we see everybody come together in one movie...It’s not like introducing a new character in a team-up movie could not work but introducing like 4 different characters in a team-up movie…most of the time it doesn’t work.”

And yet, the first Superman movie introduced 5 new superheroes, Guy Gardner, Mr. Terrific, Hawkgirl, Rick Flag Sr. (who does nothing but he still counts) and Metamorpho, and the sequel Man of Tomorrow will feature all of them as well as the addition of Blue Beetle, John Stewart, Wonder Woman, Supergirl and of course Krypto will return. That's 11 superheroes for a sequel to a movie about one superhero. Color me crazy but that's a lot of characters, many of which casual fans will be seeing for the first time. The die-hards who watched Lanterns and are familiar with Blue Beetle from the DCEU won't be surprised but causal fans will wonder what the hell's going on with all these characters in a Superman movie. And that's not even including all the side characters like Lois, Perry White, Ma and Pa Kent, Jimmy Olsen, etc.

You could also count Lex as the 12th hero in the movie since he'll eventually be on the side of Superman as they battle Brainiac. This honestly feels like the DCEU all over again where they're rushing to hit that billion dollar mark rather than taking their time.

And while I agree that movies can have differences those differences shouldn't be so jarring that they don't fit when you bring them together. As of now the worlds Gunn has created consists of 100-foot kaijus, monkeys that shit post on social media, a dog with super powers, an eagle that hangs around a guy who hosts drug-infested orgies, a body horror movie about a guy who's body melts into clay, a grounded crime drama starring space police and soon a gorilla that rides a scooter while attending college. Sorry, but some of those concepts are way too divergent from one another.

No one other than Gunn and Saffron really know the trajectory for the DCU but I just don't see it becoming as popular as anything Marvel has or will do. Everything feels so haphazardly created and Gunn's misguided passion for perfect scripts will be his downfall especially after the dumpster fire that was Supergirl. And if Man of Tomorrow isn't a critical and financial success, he'll have a hard time keeping what little integrity he has left. And with an upcoming release slate that's equal parts cartoons and sitcoms, I think his fandom will eventually grow tired of his antics.

It's funny that the last scene of old DCEU was Orm eating a cockroach burger and smiling. It's like the fans who are trying to be happy in eating whatever s**t the execs release 😂

After following this story for some time now, I'm blaming DC fans for every reboot we have had over the last 20 years trying to chase the Nolan high

I watched the whole video! Nice work, my man.

For me, DCEU since Man od Steell until Aquaman (with JL replaced by ZSJL) was the absolute peak of DC movies. Sure, WB forced a lot of bad changes, but it was still the superior take when we'll compare it to any post-Aquaman DC movie or to whole DCU. BvS is still my brother's favourite superhero movie ever made.

Sometimes i don’t understand why channel with this content have so less subscriber

Needed a stand alone Batman Movie with him dealing with the aftermath of the Superman Zod fight.
Some of the Suicide Squad characters would have been in it.
Also Man of Steel needs the color put back in it.

It’s the fandoms that’s why it keeps failing especially nowadays. You got James Gunn Stans Zack Snyder Stans and Matt Reeves Stans all infighting. Meanwhile the MCU fandom is for the most part united.

Always been and always will be the marvel vs dc but i miss when we would get a dc movie, then a marvel movie, then an x-men movie in the same year.

I wish Cavill & Calle would've each gotten proper final appearances other than each one's characters may or may not still be alive.

Amazing vid!

Wasn't Warner Brothers already falling apart? They had over forty billion dollars in debt and were forced to sell? Sounds like in order to get in this kind of financial trouble, it would take decades of big mistakes that were not getting a return on Warner Brothers hoped for. If Warner Brothers was sinking and in turmoil, wouldn't this have brought the DC down with them?

Dunno what or how you're doing it, but these film discussions are extremely entertaining! Keep up the good work!