Apologies that there's a bit of a volume difference between us! This, Fulgrim, and Valkia the Bloody's episode was recorded before we got a microphone upgrade so going forward audio should be clean! ❤💙

To clarify planet naming schemes; it's the same as star trek's system, where each planet is named after the star and given a number depending on which order they are from their star. So Earth would be known as Sol 3, since we're the 3rd planet from the star Sol.

Me: "Oh, boy, another video by Numbskulls! Imma watch it!"
Also me as I see the face-hands: "So this is gonna be one of THOSE days, is it?"

I've heard that it's poor edict to show up to a Warhammer 40K game with unpainted Minis but I can just imagine someone coming in to play with an army of unpainted Iron Hands and when someone calls them out on it they simply say, "Ferrus would not care if they were painted, only if they could be used".

The hands talking about psychological issues somehow tickles my twisted sense of humor. 😂😂😂

Ferrus Manus and the Iron Hands were primarily responsible for the field-testing and drafting of tactical doctrine concerning the use of numerous pieces of Astartes-Grade wargear, with their most notable contribution being Terminator armor. The Indomitus pattern suit that we all know and love today is a direct result of the Iron Hands’ tinkering. And their findings with their research informed a large portion of what would eventually become the Codex Astartes. If it involves terminators, dreadnoughts, or tanks, the Iron Hands wrote the book on it. As a result of their close work with the Mechanicum, they amassed the most technologically advanced armory out of all the Astartes legions, and they used it with pride and gusto in every battle they fought.

For this reason, and many others, Horus greatly desired Ferrus to join him when he turned traitor. It’s also the reason that Horus was quaking in his frilly little gumboots when he found out Fulgrim tipped their hand, and Ferrus wasn’t going to be joining them for their rebellion. Horus orchestrated the Dropsite massacre to remove the Iron Hands from the field as quickly and cleanly as possible because he KNEW that the Iron Hands were going to be the biggest threat to his plans. Even if the traitors were able to annihilate the Iron Hands in the march to Terra, the traitors would be LIMPING into Terra’s orbit, if they even made it there at all. He had to get rid of them ASAP. And Istvaan didn’t even work all that well. It took the combined efforts of 8 traitor legions as well as numerous traitor Mechanicum and Exertis assets to bring down about 2/3rds of the legion, and even still, many of those Iron Hands survived the Dropsite massacre and went on to rally the Raven guard and salamanders into the Shattered Legions to be a MASSIVE pain in the ass for the traitors their whole way back to Terra.

And besides, as someone who had a prosthetic leg from age 5, and always felt super self-conscious about it, I naturally gravitated towards the Iron Hands. They taught me that my leg isn’t holding me back, it’s a showing of my strength as a person, that I carry on despite being at a disadvantage.

The discussion of the WE and Angron and the cancer analogy made me realize that the WE may see the butchers nails as shaving their heads in solidarity, but to Angron it's a bunch of people he already doesn't like saying "WE GAVE OURSELVES CANCER TO BE LIKE YOU! DO YOU LOVE US NOW?"

Of all the Primarchs, Ferrus Manus always appeared to me as "elder brother" coded. Despite all the primarchs basically being the same age, he comes across as the oldest somehow, sometimes with a bit of a mentor status to him, but an imperfect one. He experienced tragedy early in a way few of his brothers did and mildly resented them for it even as he came to love them in a way he couldn't express. The Lion is the most emotionally closed off of them, another figure that is seen as somehow being an older brother among "equals", but I wish we'd gotten to see him and Ferrus interact more, because I feel like the two overly masculine primarchs might have found someone who understood the masks they both have to wear.

The sadness of the Iron Hands in their obsession with bionics is best exemplified by their motto : "The Flesh is Weak". But it turns out it was said by Vulcan and the Chapter has forgotten about the second part of the quote. "The Flesh is Weak, but Deeds Endure." Really sad how it completely recontexualualises the motto yet the Iron Hands don't know or worse, don't care.

"I'll pretend to be a Salamander"
Kari LIVES!!!! *Stomp *Stomp

I appreciate the name drop! Glad you liked my comment. As you said, it was mostly speculation and latching on to a character I relate to. I didn’t really go into it, but I find Ferrus’s relationship with his sons tragic. He has been taught and forced by his environment into this personification of toxic masculinity, and in an almost patriarchal way, forces his sons to learn the same lessons. When they begin the self mutilation, he realizes the harm of what he’s done, and the pain he has instilled. He really does care about them, and I think it’s a tragedy he never got to fulfill his promise of helping his sons overcome the hurt he had instilled in them. Not only was he hurt by stoicism, he hurt generations of his descendants with it as well. The Iron Hands and the Mechanicus are the same in obsession with removing the flesh, but they could not be more different in cause. The Mechanicus love being metal, the Iron Hands love nothing. They only hate being flesh. And it is all Ferrus’s fault.

This should be fun. I know literally nothing about this dude.

Since she reads the comments.... spoiler alert:












Starscream dies in the transformers 1984 movie

I just realized they're doing primarchs in order of being found. I was sitting here trying to figure out why we're doing a Ferrus Manus episode. He's a cool guy but there isn't like... a lot of lore about him. lol

@2:29 “His neck?”

Didn’t miss a beat and stuck the landing on the quintessential Ferrus Manus meme.

She’s one of us now!

42:05 has an error. This is factually wrong. Ferrus and Horus never fought. Horus was the mediator between Dorn and Ferrus. After the battle was over, Ferrus challenged Dorn in an honor duel where each chose a champion to fight for their legion. The primarchs did not fight. It was astartes who represented the legions that fought. Ferrus has a temper, but he does not escalate things to the point it makes primarchs duel for empty reasons.

Googlie eyes on the iron hands is something i need

Fun fact, even "The flesh is weak" is wrongly understood by Iron Hands. It was a praise given to Ferrus by Vulkan after a long battle against Orks, Ferrus said that his arms were tiring from killing so many Greenskins, to which Vulkan answered "The flesh is weak, but deeds endure."
Vulkan meant that even though they were flawed and could tire, what mattered were the deeds that would be remembered by the generations to come, even Primarchs are mortal, but great actions are eternal. The Iron hands understood that they should be as machine as possible ^^

I’m only a new fan but this is why I adore your content. You not only talk about pop culture stuff and relate it back to the viewer, which makes me feel included and not like an outsider to this fandom, but you also talk about psychology and identity, and the workings of how these people might work.

It’s so refreshing to hear and I love it so much!

0:15 a little late for that