It isn’t normal to see the people developing new technology “running around shouting that the sky is falling,” Binyamin Appelbaum argues. So how do we make A.I. safe? By regulating it. Appelbaum, the lead writer on economics and business for The Times’s editorial board, joins the Opinion science writer David Wallace-Wells to discuss.
00:00 – Summer of A.I. Terror: Rogue Agents & Military Hallucinations
01:28 – Why Silicon Valley Is Shouting "The Sky Is Falling"
02:50 – Four Years of Inaction: Where’s the A.I. "Atom Bomb"?
06:25 – The Blueprint: How to Tame an Unpredictable Tech
07:54 – Treating A.I. Like Airlines, Nuclear Power and Medicine
08:38 – How to Teach A.I. Right from Wrong
12:00 – Can We Trust Corporate "Constitutions" When A.I. Gets Smarter?
18:42 – Silicon Valley's Greatest Myth: Immunity from the Law
19:53 – Why Not Just Ban Superintelligence Altogether?
22:16 – The China Threat: Genuine Cold War or Tech Monopoly Myth?
26:10 – Strange Bedfellows: Bernie Sanders, Steve Bannon and A.I. Politics
31:20 – Trump, Xi Jinping and the Limits of Self-Regulation
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It isn’t normal to see the people developing new technology “running around shouting that the sky is falling,” Binyamin Appelbaum argues. So how do we make A.I. safe? By regulating it. Appelbaum, the lead writer on economics and business for The Times’s editorial board, joins the Opinion science writer David Wallace-Wells to discuss.
00:00 – Summer of A.I. Terror: Rogue Agents & Military Hallucinations
01:28 – Why Silicon Valley Is Shouting "The Sky Is Falling"
02:50 – Four Years of Inaction: Where’s the A.I. "Atom Bomb"?
06:25 – The Blueprint: How to Tame an Unpredictable Tech
07:54 – Treating A.I. Like Airlines, Nuclear Power and Medicine
08:38 – How to Teach A.I. Right from Wrong
12:00 – Can We Trust Corporate "Constitutions" When A.I. Gets Smarter?
18:42 – Silicon Valley's Greatest Myth: Immunity from the Law
19:53 – Why Not Just Ban Superintelligence Altogether?
22:16 – The China Threat: Genuine Cold War or Tech Monopoly Myth?
26:10 – Strange Bedfellows: Bernie Sanders, Steve Bannon and A.I. Politics
31:20 – Trump, Xi Jinping and the Limits of Self-Regulation
Read the full transcript here: https://nytimes.com/2026/09/24/opinio...
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The Opinions podcast: "You've heard the news, here's what to make of it."