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It's odd to me how a lot of the predators would say how they watched the show and suspected that it was a trap

first thing my parent said when i told them i was a survivor of csa was "how? i knew every adult you were ever with". and they are a smart and thoughtful parent! but this narrative is so pervasive that it's genuinely blinding for people

I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered by how protecting kids is treated like a form of entertainment and not due diligence of adults

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I come back after a year to all this? Anyway, i think some are neglecting to remember that Chris goes on to make TCAP and predator investigations his sole personality. He used his career to profit off of this.

Those covering the show is different from people who claim to catch predators (real or fake) and use it to make a spectacle. TCAP is the format they use. Its entertainment to torture criminals. Considering how easily people point fingers, this is BAD.

People aren't trying to advocate for restorative justice, they're trying to advocate for legal war crimes.

Who is here after the movie trailer "Primetime" with Robert Pattinson?

I can 100% confirm that age-appropriate education protects kids & should be standard practice. It protected me from potential CSA when I was 5.
My mom sold Discovery Toys at the time, and one of their products was musical recording called Safety Kids, which used songs to teach preschool and little kids safety lessons they could sing along to, and better remember.
Songs ranged from teaching you to memorize your home phone number, telling you to look for a "grandma or mom with children" if you got lost and separated from your parents, to scream and draw attention if a stranger grabbed you and tried to take you, and similar safety lessons. They used drama and music to make it easy for little kids to understand.
One of the songs ('Stay Outside of My Line or I'll Tell On You') taught kids there was an invisible line around their body and if any adult "came inside your line" by doing something that scared you, you needed to get help and tell about this right away. My mom played this tape at sales demos all the time, and she had no idea little me was listening to it and learning all the songs, but I was.
My grandma had a new boyfriend and they left him in charge of watching me (at age 5) at a craft booth while my mom and grandma both left the booth together to explore the fair. Suddenly my mom heard her name being paged on the PA to come to security and they found me there, hysterical and crying. Apparently I'd screamed and ran to a "mom with kids" and asked her to please help me find my mommy.
When mom asked me what was wrong, I pointed to my grandma's boyfriend (who I was left alone in the booth with) and all I could tell her was, "he came inside my line, mom! He came inside my line!!" Of course, my mom knew what that meant.
I was never left alone with the guy again and my grandma dumped him right away. I realize CSA situations are more complicated when its someone the child knows and trusts, and that can make it hard to know who to safely tell and report to. But I strongly believe the sooner education begins and it doesn't have to be complicated for preschoolers, I understood enough at 5 to make my message clear, more kids would be protected sooner in life, decreasing their vulnerability.

Thank you for spreading awareness of COCSA. I was assaulted by another 3rd-grader who was passing on things he'd "learned" from an older cousin. It's depressingly common.

I think most kids never admit they have these encounters online to their parents because they know that most parents will force them to stop using that specific app or in extreme cases the internet and chatting at all. Basically they end up punishing their kids for something someone else did. The parent will feel they are doing a good thing but the child won't see it that way and so they won't even risk telling their parents about what happened.

My mom works in a kindergarten in Norway. Once a year, they have a CSA learning day.

They play age-appropriate animated videos, they talk about bodily autonomy, and put focus on how family members often are the culprits. They tell the kids that even if you love your dad / grandpa / uncle / aunt / whoever, you don't deserve to be treated that way, and they dispel the common threats often used to make kids stay quiet. My mom says it's the worst day of the year and the staff are always sick to their stomachs, but it's an important topic.

I believe the same education is also now a part of our puberty and s3x-ed classes both in elementary and middle school. Unfortunately, we still don't have a proper consent law, so only 1% of SA leads to conviction.

So, I'm the survivor of a rather violent CSA at the hands of another child. And this is the first time I've ever heard how statistically common that is. My disclosure at the time wasn't taken seriously, because no one (authority figures, parents, doctors, and therapists included) believed that the perpetrator was capable of such a thing, due to his age. To this day, people tend not to believe me, citing the age thing. In weak, terrifying moments, I've worried that I'm misremembering the whole thing. The relief and vindication I feel right now is inexpressible. I'm going to do some more research into this, and hopefully feel less alone. Thank you.

Its comforting for people to think of CSA perpetrators as strangers. It means that the problem is them, its those people. It means they don't have to confront that one uncle everyone knows not to leave alone in the same room as a kid. It means people don't have to ask questions about the sports coach, the youth pastor, the over familiar teacher.

Hating pdf files is easy when they're monsters in the darkness and much much harder when they're someone you know and trust.

Its always important to remember: predators are people too. Not in the sense that you should empathize with them, but in the sense that people you already empathize with are still fully capable of being them.

Every person ever arrested for csa had family and friends who thought they were "a really great guy" up until the exact moment they found out what they did. Thats why they thought they could get away with it. I think if more people recognized this, it would be easier for victims to get help and easier to convince people to take steps that actually help protect their children, such as actually allowing them to say no and assert boundaries with anyone and everyone, including kids and adults they know.

I love how they experts say "talk to your child about their boundaries and the right to not be touched."
But when it comes to childhood bullying and the complete lack of boundaries or dignity every society is like "just ignore them, just don't engage, NO you can't fight back!"

pft, what a joke

people forget that most predators are people you know and trust, and not the random old man. its going to be your husband, your nephew, your aunt, your cousin, your friend's wife, etc. they know you trust them and wont suspect them. be careful with who you trust and leave children with. the wrong person can ruin a child's life.

29:43 I remember once a coworker of mine complained that her nephew refused to let her kiss him on the cheeks because his mom told him it's okay to say no to someone who wants to kiss/hug/touch him. I struggled to word a response to explain that it's a good thing to teach kids about consent and unwanted touching without her thinking that I was calling her a pervert for wanting to kiss family. I mean, I did think she was being rude and disrespectful by trying to invade the personal space of a child who had told her "No," but you can't say that to people of her generation without them freaking out...

The other aspect of both the Satanic panic and the internet predator panic was an implicit accusation against working mothers, the implication often being made that a mother working outside the home was the reason children were being exposed to danger.

Not wanting him to die without a trial and not caring that he's dead are two completely different things. I personally do not care at all that this man is dead.

The amount people think I’m okay with CSA because I talk about prevention before the crime is committed is so so tiring.

I faced CSA at home with a step father who was an ex-cop.  Didn't look a damn thing like the predator on cop tv shows. Go figure that people still don't believe it.

I remember reading about "the monster myth" and how it influences people to be way more shocked when an abuser or killer is someone they actually know rather than a stranger, even though most of those types of crimes are perpetrated by people who know the victims.