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I also feel like them cutting out several scenes showing how Elphaba is struggling with loneliness and showing how it’s all truly affecting her did such a disservice to her character

Still can't believe Glinda mourning Nessa was portrayed as more touching and sad than Elphaba mourning her💀💀

Glinda somehow fixing/ending racism with one announcement is one of the most tone-deaf "white savior" BS story beats I've ever heard. The Animals couldn't make it happen and neither could animal-sympathizing humans (especially not green ones), they just needed a wealthy white celebrity from a respected family to do it for them. And it being apparently THAT easy to fix is an insult both to Elphaba's entire struggle, and everyone IRL who's lived with oppression and marginalization and chose to fight it.
I'd somehow blocked that scene from my memory until you reminded me of it in this video, so thank you.

One last weird choice in this movie that I think about all the time: They gave fiyero a talking Animal horse in the first movie. He talks to him, they banter like friends, and presumably they have known each other for a long time. After the timeskip, the horse is still Fiyero's horse... and he never talks again. There could be so much to explore in the idea that Fiyero's Horse Friend got caged and can't talk anymore, and Fiyero let it happen, Glinda let it happen, or maybe it was used against them, or SOMETHING, but no. Interesting plot thread left in the DUST - I actually was really hopeful in the first movie introducing Fiyero having an Animal relationship, because then it could pay off in the second movie, but. I guess not!

No one can tell me that Glinda wasn't declawed like this just because shes the popular pretty pink princess character played by Arianna Grande that girls will instinctively latch onto. Completely going against the original point of having Glinda be a pretty princess character that teaches girls to look beyond that label because not all pretty princesses are GOOD or should be blindly believed and followed from the get-go :/

I got part of the way through the second movie before texting my gf at the time to ask "Are we supposed to like Glinda???". I tried twice and couldn't finish it. I'm not bothered that Glinda was the bad guy. Her arc makes sense for her character. What bothers me is how the movie constantly tries to portray her in this light of "aww it's okay though, she's pretty and white and sweet". That should not be the message. The message should be that she's human but her actions are not okay and while we can sympathise with her, she's not the hero. She's not good. She's wicked.

I watched it in the theater with a few of my colleagues, and after the movie I overheard one of them say "Why did the evil witch lady steal Fiyero from Glinda??". I was so shocked because I wondered if we watched the same movie. People love pitying Glinda because the movie makes her extremely sympathetic when she should be morally grey. I guarantee if Glinda wasn't played by Ariana Grande, then people wouldn't be sympathizing with her as easily. I won't even go into how people treat Cynthia compared to Ariana.

Glinda literally said "use her sister" and is still loved because she didn't mean to cause the "tornado" but also forgetting that "you'll have her" line from her

As someone who adored the first movie, I was really let down by For Good, especially the very ending.  The finale (I think under a misguided and cowardly assumption that film audiences can’t handle a tragic ending) is WAY too soft on Glinda.

I was really frustrated that Glinda's confrontation with Morrible was moved to a separate office scene instead of remaining in March of the Witchhunters. That dialogue hits much harder when she's forced to smile and wave at the consequences of her actions

This video made me feel a lot less insane for feeling like something was tonally off with the movie. The movie completely missed the mark when it came to confronting Glinda and her complacency and complicity in propping up a fascist regime. She quite literally builds her public facing personality on the back of her best friend. The movie consistently presents them as yin and yang- with horrid, monstrous depictions of Elphaba and beautiful, princess-like depictions of Glinda side by side. So many people missed Glinda’s wickedness because of the way the movie packaged her- pink, glittery, and so naive that she can’t be held accountable at all. In today’s political climate, it feels a bit disgusting to not make people confront Glinda’s privilege and her complacency to serve as a mirror.

I feel like I’ve been fighting for my life trying to make hardcore movie Glinda stans understand that Glinda did not deserve to know Elphaba and Fiyero were alive. That her penance for her complicity is losing the two people who genuinely knew her and cared for her. I also hate that the Grimmerie opened for her at the end. It would have been more effective to have her make amends but never be rewarded with magic for it.

The movie adaption of Wicked feels like it fawns over the fact Ariana Grande is in the film... Rather than focusing on the original source material.

Not that I need to reiterate the point, but having Glinda solve racism just like that is literally saying that she was "right" in her actions all along. Silly Elphie, causing mayhem is not how you make things better! In order to make any significant changes to the system, you must first align yourself with the system. The only way to do good is from the inside, like Glinda, not through activism and confrontation. How is that message anything but "fall in line and don't cause trouble"?

I felt so incredibly mad they didn't let Elphaba have any true emotional moment. Like with the animal cage scene, I was waiting for a little sign this affected her even a little, and that just came when she saw her old professor. She doesn't even shed a tear while starring at her sister's corpse, she seemed so stoic the whole way through until For Good. They just gave all the emotional reactions, the loneliness, the questioning to Glinda and completly sideline Elphaba's. The ending also really struck me, as when I saw the muscial my impression was that Elphaba is the one to get somewhat of a happy ending while Glinda is left to deal with the fall out of her actions (namely loosing every person she ever loved), while the movie ends with Elphaba and Fiyero walking in a desert potentially to go to a land the movie explicity told us is said to be barren, while Glinda has her stupid redemption moment solving racism with like 2 sentences.

i absolutely hate the shot that elphaba can’t even mourn nessa alone, jon chu is absolutely terrible at making emotional scenes, why the hell is glinda in both shots at elphabas solo mourn for her sister 😭

I had my reservations when they cast Ariana as Glinda because I feared they would market Wicked as “Ariana is Glinda, isn’t that awesome.” And while they did relatively well with giving Cynthia her due in the first film, the second film makes her basically a secondary character in her own story. Then they had the audacity to write Glinda as a well-intentioned air head who just doesn’t understand politics when Glinda clearly does (thats the whole point of Popular), I felt all the more vindicated for not trusting the process.

Funny how Glinda, both in the stage show and movie, claims that Elphaba is her “best friend”, yet didn’t do even the littlest thing to help Elphaba’s reputation during the five year intermission, not even so much as a little positive comment about her, and it’s very evident in Act 2. While it is cruel, she honestly deserved to lose her friends at that point.

I don’t like that Glinda was shown on the horse that is Fiyero’s friend, when she didn’t care or protect the animals.

THE TITLE ALREADY ENCAPSULATED EVERYTHING I’VE BEEN SAYING! I APPRECIATE YOU