Thanks for watching everyone! This is obviously a topic that people are going to have wildly different opinions on, let me know what you thought of the list and what yours would look like!

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Just a note about luigi’s cyclone, but he has had tornadoes weirdly associated for his character for a while. For example, his star swing and pitch in Mario super sluggers both involve tornadoes. I don’t know the reason for this, but he does have a history of being associated with tornadoes aside from what you mentioned. Great video, nonetheless, though.

I've seen many people say just put Ganondorf's moveset on Black Shadow from F-Zero and rework Ganondorf and honestly I really hope they do that because as much as I want Ganondorf to be reworked I also love his current moveset just not on him

For KO-Punch I feel like the upper cut should really have that as a base neutral special with a star meter for increasing its power by hitting consecutive moves. It should be a snowballing mechanic like in punch out Wii.

I think that Little Mac should keep K.O. Punch, but with a different gimmick that mimics the games better; I.E. the Star Punch charge mechanic. Hit someone while they’re in startup time to give a star, maxing out at 3. It could work in a way that every time you use neutral-b you lose a star; have 3 stars and you get something akin to K.O. Punch, but not quite as powerful; have no stars and you get the charge-up punch.

Full disclosure, I was expecting you to cheat and just put Ganondorf's entire moveset onto the list in one slot. So uh, bravo on the restraint, apologies for having so little faith M-Rock.

See Ike's counter could easily be replaced because then you could move Eruption to down special.  After seeing Ike use projectiles, why doesn't he use one...

Another note about the Links, particularly their final smashes:
- Link’s Ancient Arrow is really cool but it should kill you instantly above 60-70% like it does in Breath of the Wild instead of launching
- Young Link having the Triforce Slash is lazy and I think it should be replaced with the Fierce Deity to allude to Majora’s Mask. It works fine for Toon Link since the Triforce is actually a very significant part of Wind Waker and his character’s journey.

Since Ganon is based on his OoT version, they could change the punch for his electric magic orb attack, maybe even let him charge it to throw multiple orbs like in the game

The Hurricane spin for toon link makes even more sense if you consider that it was actually a thing in smash 4, it was a custom move

I wish Kirby's Hammer still span around him in midair like Melee but hit like brawl. One of Kirby's biggest weaknesses is how easily he gets outspaced so it'd be nice for him to have one move that gives him a big "Get off me" space around him that you have to respect. Instead hammer is just...about the same distance as his fair or Bair except even more of a commitment. It's like they're afraid to make hammer good.  There's times where I forget he has that move because it's so superfluous on his kit. It doesn't do anything any of his other moves don't do easier unless you commit to charging the whole thing for a split second of superarmor. And nobody in their right mind is going to let themselves be hit by it because unlike Dedede, Kirby's not an imposing character who can cover jumps and has super armor for days that you have to respect. And even Dedede's side-B is more of a Niche move. I dunno...make it so that kirby can still fly while charging with it. That might seem over powered but the least it could do is cover jumps better than not at all.
I love hammer...conceptually. Just make it actually a part of Kirby's kit that serves a purpose.

At this point i feel like a character like Ganondorf should more or less be "grandfathered". That is, kept relatively the same, but... Also gain a whole second character, who is actually faithful. We have three Links in ultimate, i don't think it would be that ridiculous to have two Dorfs. Possibly playable Ganon as well? The Trident has, potential.

On the link up b thing there is more to "save time" than just coding/animating the move. Planning and balance in some cases probably take up more time than just the time to put it in game.
I think side B would be a better choice to mix up the links with going them items from their games.

Hand Slap should definitely stay because it's like the only move DK has had since 64 that's actually from the games.

You really could have just made this about special moves I guess besides Ridley. It does make sense though since specials are the most creative and defining move for each character.

Here’s an idea: ike can keep eruption, but its moved to the down b slot. It would still let ike become the projectile swordfighter you want him to be with neutral b and or side b, but he can still have a powerful 2-frame option with eruption, plus it would address a complaint about too many characters having a counter.
Plus i think eruptions a cool and badass attack, even if its a smash original.

DK's down special is a clear reference to just his ground slam attack in every DKC game he's playable in.

I hate that rollout kills you if you hit someone OFF STAGE, AS JIGGLYPUFF. The off stage character

KO Punch could easily still exist if you made it like Kazuya's Rage and replace up-smash or F-smash and make it MUCH weaker.

And while on the topic, instead of rewarding him for taking damage, have the KO punch actually work like it does in punch-out and make it so if lands either and up b or up smash he gets a star and at 3 it becomes KO punch, that would make him more fun to play, more fun to fight and be more faithful to his home game

For warlock punch I’d love to see what p+ ganon does. They change his neutral b but move warlock punch to a taunt. Keeps the disrespectful play ganon is known for while also gaining a neutral b (maybe peach float or a reflector)