For me personally I found that from the very beginning of my development, that I had better control if I gripped the cue with just a small amount of pressure.  Enough to hold it without slipping but barely.  Now I don't think about these shots nor draw shots because I'm comfortable with my grip.  It has also helped me with my finesse game and softer shots.  Just my 2 cents worth.  Thanks Ron, and yes I'm keeping on practicing.

Ron, you are so right on gaving a loose wrist! You have so improved my game! Your instruction is always so clear and easy to understand! Love your videos! Dave

that's a good reference point for draw vs follow w/ the 2nd diamond.

Tight grip affects a ton of aspects to your game. Highly overlooked problem. Thanks Ron

Good to see this one, Ive scratched in that side pocket more times than to swing a stick at, but realizing now I’ve been overgripping

You called it. I struggle with this shot and I have been practicing it lately. Even just making the shot is difficult. Thanks!

Ron, You are so right on this shot. It is one of my favorite shots. I sometimes have issues when i add the right hand element to the low spin as i tend to shoot it into the rail. Nothing better than watching that cue ball roll up right into position.

Hey there! 😂 Man, I was actually practicing these kinds of shots today 🙏 and came to the usual conclusions 😲. Then I got home, had dinner, and was thinking about watching something that would boost my confidence... and I found your video! 🙏😂🤙❤ I’ve learned to be a keen observer of this game—I try to "steal with my eyes" and really understand it... You're the best! ❤ Greetings from Italy, Ron.

Ron, Your lessons are Awesome!  You do a great job! you are helping me to shoot better Pool! Thank You!!!!

The loose wrist is definitely the must-have with draw

Wanted to mention, that great tip at the beginning of the video about of the object ball is two diamonds or more using draw, if less using follow has really stuck with me. It’s helped a lot on the decision. Every time a similar shot comes up I recall your advice. It’s helped! Thanks!

Evening Ron!  First of all, thank you for providing these videos.   I have routinely had problems with this shot and am going to use the instructions you’ve given in this vid.  Just want to say, “Thanks!”

Definitely one to work on for me. I find the 2nd shot shown (using draw) much easier. On the 1st shot, trying to follow 3 rails, I either miss or scratch in the opposite corner. It's frustrating, but a weakness to work on and conquer. Thanks Ron.

Nice one.

I think it's relevant to ask what the wrist snap really does. It adds an additional mechanic (and speed) to the end of the stroke just before making contact with the cueball. This essentially means that the timing on the stroke is more optimal. If that's the case it bares the question:

"Shouldn't we always be using a wrist snap?". I think with a few exceptions, the answer quickly becomes OF COURSE we should. If it's giving you better efficiency and timing on your stroke without loosing tip placement accuracy, you should use it. The only times it makes sense NOT to use it is when you're trying to be more delicate with a shot that doesn't require that medium+ speed stroke.

THIS is THE video I have been searching for. Glad I found it. I have been setting up this shot almost exactly and struggling with it. At the same time I have been working on that wrist thing but hadn’t combined them for this shot. Definitely on my list of things to try next time. Thanks also for the rule of thumb about when to go for draw and when to go for follow. That was great information!

Another very helpful vid, Ron. Thanks...I like your comment about the second diamond being the location where you either go forward or bring it back.

Great info. Especially for deciding when to draw to follow for shape on the 9!!!

I like the way you explore the shot from different angles. One thing I also do is to try shots with no English and then play with how much to add (I remember that rule about one tip = one diamond). With this shot, I'm also curious what the limits are when the angle gets steeper (Ex. 45 degrees or more)

Thanks Ron, I usually draw it back whether it is in front or back of the 🔹. Need to work on the follow though. Thank you for the video!!

That is one of the trickiest shots in pool IMO. Trying to get shape on the 9 you can scratch in the side or hit the 8 too hard and it wobbles without going in. Thanks for these tips! 🙏