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What's the right punishment for Manchester City? - Red Tinted Glasses

The Chronicles of a Gooner | Harry Symeou

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In this episode of Red Tinted Glasses, hosts Harry Symeou and Scott Saunders delve into the recent financial charges against Manchester City, exploring the implications for the Premier League and the integrity of football. They discuss the historical context of financial misconduct, the reactions from fans, and the potential consequences for the league and its clubs. The conversation also touches on the role of financial fair play regulations and the future of club ownership in football. In this conversation, Harry and Scott delve into the complexities of financial regulations in football, particularly focusing on Manchester City's alleged financial misconduct. They discuss the implications of financial doping on the integrity of the Premier League, the potential consequences for clubs involved, and the broader impact on players and fans. The dialogue highlights the challenges of enforcing fair play in a league where financial power can dictate success, and the need for appropriate punishments to maintain competitive balance. The conversation concludes with reflections on the future of football amidst these controversies and the reactions of players and clubs.

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00:00 Introduction to the Red Cartel Special Edition
01:08 The Manchester City Financial Charges
03:01 The Impact of Financial Misconduct on the Premier League
10:38 Comparing Manchester City and Chelsea's Situations
13:00 Fan Reactions and Defensiveness
20:17 The Premier League's Response and Future Implications
25:12 The Integrity of the Premier League and Its Future
35:02 The Role of Financial Fair Play in Club Growth
38:57 The Financial Landscape of Football
44:18 Consequences of Financial Misconduct
49:33 Negotiating Punishments: A Complex Dilemma
55:26 The Ripple Effect of Financial Doping
61:05 Future Implications and Player Reactions

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20 Comments

@johnhunter5288 2 days ago

Thanks Harry and Scott! Covered some stuff there lads,a real head spin amazed the people incharge took so long? Cheers lads💯

@iandevaz2234 1 day ago

Great show🎉

@Tdownunder 1 day ago

Great conversation Gents.

@ignatiusmiranda7578 2 days ago

Awesome Harry well said keep up the good work

@SPW567 1 day ago (edited)

if Everton owed Burnley $35 million for one year, Man City owes every team in the prem $200 million+ for 9 years

@moonglum101 1 day ago

Not relegation! Expulsion! There's an important difference. With expulsion they have to find a league that will accept them next season.

@kayceee6770 1 day ago

Chelsea was already under embargo/sanctions due to Roman having prior links to the Kremlin, then under a forced sell otherwise risk ceasing to exist as a sporting entity
Roman was also under diplomatic pressure for years which meant he couldn't get a visa to enter the UK prior to being stripped of the club

The City situation is simply different, especially under the issues of the cases, and all the debt accrued by Chelsea was owned by Roman himself and accounted for most things, outside of not disclosing payments be it to unlicenced agents

This close to £1Bn by City was to inflate their worth without using any form of debt as if it were all legit and no risk.
City didn't need to do this as they got into wealth prior to the big rule changes, could've built up their area and get in legit sponsorships, built their youth system etc.

@crannuir2371 1 day ago

They can't admit to their guilt because it's not about reputational damage to a club or individual but to an entire state due to their sport washing

@RohitSharma-mi8gt 2 days ago

Lads what was the pod you guys were on with Griz. Man I miss that

@darrenlyons 12 hours ago

They can kick them out and there is a protocol for the FA to arrange which league they can apply to. There are rules already written for this type of outcome. It'll prob be starting in League 2 for next season.

@jamesd5205 2 days ago (edited)

Dutch football club Vitesse had their professional license revoked and lost on an appeal (2025)

@TexasCannons 2 days ago

Am i right that the report/decision has now been published by the epl?

@GB-fk7eq 1 day ago

The geo political scope is worth a mention as a warning moving forward. De facto nation states, ones with arms deals with the UK especially should definitely never be allowed as owners of any sports teams in any sport. Police should be involved at this stage but I bet that won't happen because of this geo political scope

@DJLiddle 2 days ago

No punishment is too harsh for this. I dont wanna see them fined or in the championship for a season. They need to suffer for as long as they made us all suffer!

@Ryancoop1984 1 day ago

Prior to 09/10, city were a midtable team, villa, everton were the ones pushing for champs league. The seasons following, city somehow have money and take barry, milner and delph from villa. Villa dont finish above city again, yes villa made alot of mistakes under that ownership. But the ownership simply couldn't compete as city had we now know extra money from freud. This is alot biggsr than those who would of won titles, think of the other teams who lost money from prem league positions, cups, chances to get into europe etc.

@Arsenal-TheHouseonTheRock 2 days ago (edited)

Great to see you back and on the case. This Shiteh thing could drag on for a very, very long time. From the very outset, I found it strange that an Arab state could own a British club, particularly given the potentially volatile relationship known to exist between these two nations. This outcome was almost predictable. I had similar thoughts when the Oligarchs arrived. That relationship collapsed at the first hurdle: geopolitical conflicts, but not before a huge amount of money had been pumped into the British economy. As a club, we definitely dodged a bullet when Alisher Usmanov came calling. I will always respect Wenger for standing firm with his policy of sticking to playing within the rules of the game, regardless of the perceived wealth glaring back at us. I could be wrong, but I feel Shiteh might have been sacrificed for financial reasons. There is an aggressive manner about the Shiteh owners that is unnerving, almost as if being betrayed and unwilling to go down like Abramovich. It's a dirty business. Let's see what happens, but this feels bigger than just football.

I found this about Pep's shady past on a Liverpool supporters' YouTube channel, the YNWA REDS podcast. Here's the link https://youtu.be/S5f-heK45OQ?si=ZmfYxd8lpESmxuo6

@wordsbymudeet 2 days ago

The Red Cartel special edition. Hilarious 😂😭

@bagbeatums1 1 day ago

In America, the only way to avoid the death penalty is to l confess of the crimes. They only proceed to capital punishment if you refuse to admit guilt and you're found guilty. I feel that should be the case here... if City refuse to show remorse, then make the punishment way worse. If they admit they cheated, then don't nuke the club. Drop them down a league or two and let them fight another day.

@KefeAman 2 days ago

You’re incorrect on lance armstrong
He ran a organised cartel of mass drug taking not just for himself but an entire system
In some ways it’s worse

@thegreatbondini2076 1 day ago

I'm a Liverpool fan but if the money utd have lost due to city's cheating utd might not have had to lay off load of staff the other year in effect city's cheating has cost jobs already