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Trope Talk: Antiheroes

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Antiheroes! Are they heroes? Ehhhh, kinda? Okay, are they VILLAINS? Ehhhhh, not usually??
Why are these bastions of that Sweet Sweet Edginess so hard to pin down, and do we actually care all that much about how to define the? Evidently so, because I spent HOURS on these charts, and y'all are going to APPRECIATE THEM

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20 Comments

@arklaw8306 6 years ago

"If you're writing a character, write the character. Maybe they'll be seen as an anti-hero, maybe they won't." This Trope Talk really helped. It pulled a mental weight off my shoulder.

@aaacolorcodedlyrics 4 years ago (edited)

That "quitting an addiction is seen as heroic" got me thinking

Villain: God.. what have I been doing? I've been getting this all wrong!
Sidekick: What do you mean, boss?
Villain: This is all so destructive.. I'm hurting.... I need to stop this.
Sidekick: You're gonna stop killing innocent civilians?
Villain: What? God, no. What do you take me for? I'm quitting my smoking, it's really unhealthy for me. Killing people still boosts my mental health, ya know.

@PiplupPeanut 5 years ago

Red having a math degree and not an English or creative writing one is the plot twist of the century

@michaelwellen2866 4 years ago

Laughed out loud at "A wife he likes alright and a boyfriend he likes way more".

Yep, that pretty much describes Achilles.

@smilemore7431 6 years ago (edited)

What I thought I’d learn: what an antihero is.

What I actually learned: CHARTS ARE FUN DUDES!!!

Edit: this is my most liked comment, and it’s about charts. This is the power of charts my friends.

@TsulaAngenati2292 6 years ago

“Greeks didn’t rely on morals, just strength”

No wonder they like zeus

@troyjardine5850 6 years ago

"Antiheroes are way cooler than normal heroes because they posses a special power the marketers desperately seek, edgyness!"
- Terrible Writing Advice

@borealwood 3 years ago

My theatre teacher has a pretty interesting definition for an anti-hero: a character whose ends are noble enough for the audience to justify the means. The converse, of course, is that an antivillain is when the audience can no longer justify the means and so they cross the very fine line to villainy.

@vex3488 6 years ago

“Don’t write a hero, don’t write a villain, write a person.”

@Vladimir_Lemon 6 years ago

Like Potter Stewart said: "While I cannot define it, I know it when I see it."

@pumpkin2986 6 years ago

What I expected: Antiheroes

What I got: Social studies and math XD

@eddiefirstenberg1000 5 years ago

i kinda want a villain who's plans always end up backfiring making him seem more like a good guy. steal candy from a baby? candy's poisoned, baby saved. steal baby? abusive parents, baby saved. push lady off a building? the push she needed to unlock powers of flight, she's now your sidekick and the baby's adopted mother while you're the adoptive father with the adoptive parents sharing a purely platonic/aesthetic relationship

@someone16234 6 years ago

Actually, antiheroes are defined by falling into the category of “pulls into mcdonalds drive through as children cheer, orders one black coffee and leaves”

@onadaTotihotiH 6 years ago

Can you describe antiheroes?
Red: Well, yes, but actually no.

@pirateking56128 6 years ago

Trope Talk: Antiheroes

Red: "This video doesn't exist."

@leonguyen2398 4 years ago

Personally I think Jason Todd is the prime example of the antihero. Questionable methods, morally grey, self-destructive, mentally and emotionally damaged, and does the wrong things for the right reasons. But to his core, he still tries to be a hero and be a good person. He does kill, but only those who deserve to die. He's the cautionary tale of when being a hero and having heroic ideals fail or go wrong.

@Arshva 6 years ago

"Anakin's core traits never change, only the context" wooooooow, that's so true! Why didn't I see this?

@thisisfine4093 6 years ago

Anakin’s friend: You must KILL me to SAVE me.
Anakin: heavy breathing

@cryptvokeeper 6 years ago

So antiheroes are the magenta of characters; not a “real” archetype with a specific niche on the spectrum, but what our brains use to fill the in between