Erika Kirk's Interview with Nicki Minaj during America Fest 2025 went viral after the grammy nominated rapper froze on stage during an odd statement about Vice President JD Vance. Her presence also raised a lot of questions after a clip of Charlie Kirk talking about her music resurfaced. In this analysis, we take a deep dive into the conversation between Erika and Nicki. What do their body language, facial expressions and word choice actually reveal? Find out now.
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Urban Dictionary definitions of "assassin"
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SOURCES
Research on Open Mouth Smiles
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper...
Research on Furrowed Eyebrows
https://www.researchgate.net/publicat... movements_as_signals_of_communicative_problems_in_human_face-to-face_interaction
Eye blocking/ slow blink to focushttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science...
Eye brow flash in conversational emphasishttps://www.semanticscholar.org/paper...
Research on shrugging
What Can THIS Gesture Tell You? The Scienc...
Research on Eyebrow Flash
Why Do We Raise Our Eyebrows? The Science ...
Expression of Disgust
https://www.paulekman.com/universal-e...
Eye flutter for processing and memory
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/...
Blink rate and stress
https://www.stevenbos.com/dl/publicat...
Erika Kirk's Interview with Nicki Minaj during America Fest 2025 went viral after the grammy nominated rapper froze on stage during an odd statement about Vice President JD Vance. Her presence also raised a lot of questions after a clip of Charlie Kirk talking about her music resurfaced. In this analysis, we take a deep dive into the conversation between Erika and Nicki. What do their body language, facial expressions and word choice actually reveal? Find out now.
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Check out my favorite books on how to read body language (affiliate links):
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https://amzn.to/3QWbXYp
https://amzn.to/3orQNWF
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Nicki Minaj Full Interview:
WATCH: Erika Kirk Brings out Special Guest...
My Analysis of the CBS Interview:
Erika Kirk’s Viral Interview About What Ha...
Urban Dictionary definitions of "assassin"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...
SOURCES
Research on Open Mouth Smiles
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper...
Research on Furrowed Eyebrows
https://www.researchgate.net/publicat... movements_as_signals_of_communicative_problems_in_human_face-to-face_interaction
Eye blocking/ slow blink to focushttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science...
Eye brow flash in conversational emphasishttps://www.semanticscholar.org/paper...
Research on shrugging
What Can THIS Gesture Tell You? The Scienc...
Research on Eyebrow Flash
Why Do We Raise Our Eyebrows? The Science ...
Expression of Disgust
https://www.paulekman.com/universal-e...
Eye flutter for processing and memory
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/...
Blink rate and stress
https://www.stevenbos.com/dl/publicat...
1) at 23:05 after the big JD Vance line and freeze, after Erika speaks, Nicki's blink rate increases dramatically and we even see more than one flutter (rapid blinks in succession). This is very consistent with processing and stress (research in description under "sources"). She is also stammering with her words. This aligns perfectly with the mouth/eye block. It is taking her a very long time to recover and gather her thoughts after the freeze.
2) at 31:24 I coincidentally demonstrate the point I just made better than I could have ever planned. After having explained one sided shoulder shrugs, as I'm saying "what the heck's going on? what just happened?" I do 2 one sided shoulder shrugs which go perfectly with my confusion about this moment. I often illustrate with one hand which causes asymmetric arm movements but this is without a doubt a one sided shoulder shrug. I love moments like this because it goes to show that even for people who study and teach behavioral analysis these gestures are innate and completely involuntary. I had no clue I was doing it until I watched the playback.
3) at 22:29 as Erika is saying "I love you." There is a crystal clear lip retraction (lips compress and turn inwards) from Nicki. Lip compressions and retractions happen in moments of withheld opinion or disagreement, it's closely related to mouth blocking and a very logical follow up to that hand to mouth gesture.
4) There were a few sources that claimed Nicki Minaj took down her Instagram shortly after this aired. That would certainly put her whole “not noticing the backlash” statement into question. However, many other sources have reported that her Instagram was taken down in October, before this event, many of those sources have very high certainty. I would love more clarity on this.
5) We’re getting a LOT of theories on the meaning of “assassin” in the comments, a few commenters are certain she’s used it before to mean effective or strong like a killer or a shark. Another theory that came up a few times is that she might mean it like “he slays” speaking to how attractive he is, and i saw 2 comments who said the face scrunch following this line is more of a “he’s so good looking it hurts” expression. I can see how “assassin” might mean “attractive,” it’s a good theory I think especially because it lines up with what she said about Trump in that same playful way. But that face scrunch and eye block is definitely (and I very rarely use the word definitely) discomfort/ mess up. The playfulness goes away, it’s replaced by hesitation and awkwardness and her looking to Erika for help and it goes on for a while. Behaviorally there’s a clear shift in that moment and I do not believe it is a continuation of the “assassin” description, it’s a shift away from it.