The last story makes me want to cry. That poor kid didn’t choose any of this. He wasn’t the one who cheated, he wasn’t the one to make these decisions and he’s being punished for it? How could ANYONE be that cold to a child? Despicable.

I feel like Morgan and her dad dropped the ball on the wedding story. The kid is gonna be alone at the wedding. Everyone there is strangers to him and the other guests could even badmouth him there. Morgan even agreed that there should be a separate event for him to actually meet his dad and his side of the family so I don't know why they're bashing him. These relationships need time to develop. You definitely need more info before judging him like that. The wedding being soon and the kid suddenly being in his life is a case of bad timing and this situation is so unique, so there is no clear answer to this.

So surprising to see we disagree with the wedding one! Usually I agree with your reactions but for that one, I honestly would say NAH. I agree that hosting a second event for the son to meet the family would be the best bet, and if any relative steps down to let the son go that's awesome but I dont think the dad not having any room in the wedding for a son he had not been in his life for is an asshole decision.

I mean I can't say that dad who didn't invite the son to the wedding was wrong. Like I'm assuming that they don't have any children and then suddenly one day a 15 year comes in his life, and you can't just expect him to be dad automatically.

Very much disagree with the wedding one. The redditors were spot on, he was just recently made aware that he even had a child, let alone trying to figure out how to include him in his wedding?? with covid??? I’m not that 15 year old boy, but if I were in a similar situation, I would prefer to meet my bio dad/ family somewhere outside of a big emotional event (like a wedding or funeral) so we can actually talk. I think it’s also more important for him to put focus on the son when he actually meets him so that the son feels included. He won’t be able to do that when he’s focusing on his wedding. I hope the best for that guy and his “new” son. I think one of the worst things you can do though is try to force/ rush a relationship. I think he’ll meet him when he’s ready and feels comfortable. Clearly he wants to be apart of his life. They’ll make it work, even without the wedding invite.

Please do a "Reddit gave a bad advice" section! I feel like a lot of podasts that use AITA usually tend to side with the overall vote, even if it doesn't make that much sense.

Morgan you literally said “your 15 year old son who doesn’t really know you yet”…. That is all the more reason for him not to come, they don’t know each other! Weddings are not the place to bond or meet your parent! I usually agree with y’all but this one is kind of ridiculous. Also, it’s also a little gaslight-y to say that the dad doesn’t want to be a father because he’s not inviting him. I know the son is going through a lot but what about the dad, he’s probably in shock and hurt also. 🤦‍♀️

I disagree, I dont think the kid should come to the wedding. The wedding is not the place for a first meeting and while he is the adult in the situation, I think you're throwing out how traumatic this might be for his side, his fiance, his family in this and the wedding isn't the place for that. Yes in an ideal world he would suck it up and just go meet the kid and all would be happy but its not an ideal world and this was still sprung on him and he will have his own processing to do. I think having an event for him special to meet the family etc is a much better idea. Wedding is stressful as is, plus you dont think the kid will feel bad to be there when he has to be exposed to the good bad and ugly of other family and friends opinions (ppl can be trash). At least they can field it and have him meet people in a nice controlled event specifically for him.

That last story is so heartbreaking. The dad and his family are horrible. It’s not the kid’s fault that the dad cheated. Thank god for those friends for being decent human beings!

I’m shocked that everyone thinks the dad that didn’t know he was a dad is an asshole for not inviting him to the wedding. I feel so strongly against this. Blood doesn’t make someone family, I’m sorry there’s not even a relationship there uet you can’t pretend the past 15 years didn’t happen. This man does not need to re route his entire wedding for someone he didn’t know existed.

The reason why some dads are so aggro and possessive over their daughters' sexuality is because either the fathers themselves do not see women as independent people with a right to their autonomy, or they treat(ed) the women in their life as sexual property. Or both!

Not to be too controversial, but when it comes to the wedding story I would vote NAH. It doesn't say how long OP has known Kevin but the fact OP mentioned making plans to meet him leads me to believe it hasn't been that long. Kevin is young, and has gone through some serious trama. But OP just found out his ex lied to him for years and he does, in fact, have a kid. Their relationship is probably very surface level and if the wedding is full of very important people in OP and his fiance's life I'm on his side.
Now, if his goldfish's third cousin is invited I think some careful converstations and moving some thing around would allow Kevin to take part. Which I do think would be very nice. I just don't think this guy is quite the definative asshole they painted him to be this episode.

I’m sorry but that kid IS A STRANGER point Blank period, it is not his fault he was not their for his childhood and the weeding is child free, nope, not the asshole, he already said he would make another event and the kid is okay with it.

The last story is heart breaking. He’s a child in a bad spot put into an even worse toxic environment. What amazing friends of the horrible dad

For the wedding: terrible take by Morgan and her dad. Just because you’re suddenly a dad to a kid who you were led to believe wasn’t yours, doesn’t mean you’re required to uproot a wedding’s plan. He stated that it wasn’t good timing but that he’d make time for him.

I don’t think the dad who couldn’t invite his biological son was an a-hole. I think his son’s biological mom and the grandmother were the a-holes for treating him like that when he was so desperate to be present in his son’s life way before they even knew it was his. The fact that he tried so hard before and now they’re kind of giving him the responsibility back when the ‘supposed’ dad divorced the mom.

It also seemed like he is excited to be present in his son’s life and his fiancé is supportive of this. But his life doesn’t now just revolve around his son. Society kind of says that you have to have your child be the #1 priority…but that seems contradicting because what about the parent’s own life and identity before they had a child? Their title is not limited to just being a parent, they have their own lives too. And this chapter he’s starting with his fiancé doesn’t directly affect his son whom he just met. They both need time to get to know each other and like he said, he’s willing to make arrangements to make sure they get to know each other well and so that his son can meet his side of the family.

I do think he could have at least tried to make an arrangement where he could invite his son because that on its own is an opportunity to get to know each other well. His son is 15? That doesn’t seem like a child at that age. They’re young adults at that time.

And also, his son was also not at fault so just trying to get to know each other and letting his son get a peak of what his current life is looking like is a great stepping stone into getting to know each other on a deeper level as son and dad.

In conclusion, I don’t this he was an a-hole but I do think he could have made arrangements to invite him.

(Don’t be rude in the replies.I’m stating my own opinion and I like reading other people’s too.)

Ok, on the wedding one with the 15 old. Nta.
I've listened, maybe it's just me, but he didn't raise this kid. He has no ties to this kid other than DNA. That equals no obligation. There's no bond there. While OP seems interested in his kid. I know if this happened to me I sure as hell wouldn't be. I know a lot of people who would go, 'oh, I have a kid. That's- uncomfortable. It was nice to meet you have a good day.'
I don't understand why if a kid shows up its suddenly the other person's moral obligation to accept them without hesitation. Some people don't want that. Some people aren't in a position to do that! This kid is effectively a stranger.
Plus the people he invited to his wedding are likely his family, the fiancee's family, closest friends on both sides. With restrictions, this is likely a very tight-knit wedding. Kicking anyone out of the party would be unfair.
 It sucks for the kid, yea no doubt about that. But OP doesn't owe him anything. Yet OP intends to use his money and time to make a new event just for the kid. That's a lot to still get. At least that's how I see it.

OMG The dad and the wedding story. They're SO confident in their opinion and everyone in these comments said: 'GIRL WTF IS YOU TALKIN ABOUT?!?' I agree, bad take you guys. Why would you want the first meeting to be at a wedding where the dad is going to be extremely busy, stressed out, and unable to really emotionally connect, all while the son is isolated, totally alone, no one knows him, and you have to go back on your word to others to get him there? FOR WHAT? To emotionally scar him more??? He's 15, he should be able to understand a heartfelt apology and to understand the logic behind the decision. Just meet the son BEFORE the wedding so he knows you really want to make a connection, the wedding just isn't a good place to make it.

Re the dad who couldn't invite the son to his wedding, NAH. I am disappointed that you think he was. Its not an ideal world. Father has invited the closest people to his wedding which is childfree, they have made arrangements to attend the wedding. Who is he going to pick to uninvite and how is he going to uninvite them?
He is making efforts to arrange an event just for the son. What else is he supposed to do?

In the case of the father that didn’t invite the son. With restrictions, the venue is very specific  with the amount of people allowed. They haven’t met so it would be awkward to have come to the wedding. They’ll have an event solely for the purpose of introducing him.