can i pull you for a chat x

time stamps:
00:00 - intro
05:44 - what is a pick me boy/nice guy syndrome?
08:54 - hugo from love island (is a massive pick me)
16:30 - why do pick me boys/nice guys even exist?
23:34 - incels

The idea of incels using the “red pill” term when it was invented by two trans female directors is just *chef’s kiss*

i have honestly found that the men who have to convince the world so often that they’re “nice guys” tend to be the most manipulative in nature

My parents always told me to find a good man, not a nice man. A nice man is selective and entitled with his kindness, he is only nice to people he wants a reward from. A good man is equally good to everyone unless they are immediately terrible to him and others, and only expects others to treat him with basic respect in return.

"Do you respect women or just the one's you're attracted to?" - someone on the Internet

they always say i was “friend zoned” like a girl not being attracted to you is an act of violence 🙄

I don't like zebras.

I was friends with a pick me/nice guy for about over a year, we were really close friends and he liked me as more than that, so when he realised I would never like him back (I'm a lesbian, he knew that) he ended up getting extremely mad at me for that and started calling me 'narcissistic', 'sociopathic', and 'toxic' among many other things. honestly part of the reason I'm so sceptical of guys wanting to be friends with me.

I will be remembering this one! “As a man you are more likely to be raped by another man than you are to be falsely accused of rape by a woman”. Like the amount of times I’ve had conversations about rape with male friends and they only want to bring up how women falsely accuse men of rape, and every one of them always knows some friend that it happened to. Like dude maybe your friend is just a rapist?!

You see, the thing most people don't understand is this: having a romantic relationship with someone is not a basic right. Nobody owes it to you just because you exist.

a really important point in the creation of "involuntary celibacy" is that the originator of the term was a bisexual woman, and biphobia played a massive part in her struggles with dating!

One thing that always baffled me was that these “nice guys” will reject women that they do not find attractive over chasing women out of their leagues and when these women want to date someone as attractive as them instead of a “nice guy” all of sudden they’re called Shallow and “ Girls only like bad boys”, “ Nice guys finish last”. My mom always told me: “ Never feel sorry for a man because while he might be crying for you, he’s making other 3 women cry.”

One of the worst things I have experienced in my life was an incel threatening to commit an act of mass violence and telling me it was my fault because I wasn't interested in him. This was my freshman year at university, and everyone on our floor went out of our way to be nice to him. We all thought he was just kind of an awkward guy. None of us thought he had the potential to be dangerous. We actually went out of our way to try to make him feel included. I pretty quickly started dating a different guy on the floor. The incel guy would often talk to me about this other girl he had a crush on, and he was friends with my boyfriend, so I just assumed that we were friends and it was fine. Then it got really scary when he told me about the violent things he wanted to do to everyone on our floor all because I and the other girl he liked weren't interested in dating him. He ended up writing a threatening message in a public place, and was hospitalized and withdrew from the school. People like this can be extremely dangerous and I just wish that I had known more about identifying the difference between just a socially awkward guy and a dangerous incel. There were SO MANY red flags, and I wish I had realized what was actually going on sooner.

I was once friends with a guy for about six months who declared himself as a male feminist. we were talking one night and I opened up to him about some really personal things and he kept telling me how unfortunate that was, then five minutes later he kept dropping hints about if I were to be asked out would I say yes, and I said I wasn’t in a good state of mind at that time, so no. he ended up blocking me and I never heard from him again. now I’m cynical about men like him

The thing is, often incels aren't physically unattractive per se. It's just their attitude, hatred towards women and themselves, and lack of self-confidence which makes them unappealing as (sexual) partners. It's a cycle which is really hard to get out of, I imagine.

I fell for a pick-me/nice guy. He acted like he was so respectful and nice to women (I'm not a girl but I'm afab nonbinary) and acted like feminism was really important to him. Also did the whole "I'm sensitive uwu. No one understands me because I have depression." Of course, cut to when I'm unhappy because he's contributed nothing to the relationship and he cries and tells me I'm horrible for calling him out on it. Literally got told I was greedy for asking for more time with him even though we only saw each other once a week. Never again.

My biological brother is an incel and you described him perfectly. Growing up his parents treated him like he is God's gift to humanity and as he grew up and the rest of the world didn't confirm this to him, he experienced it as a great injustice. In private he is a very angry petty person hating on the type of people who are not protected e.g. minorities and scapegoats. In the outside world, he is the ultimate pick-me guy, fake nice, two faces, and only cares about how he looks in the eyes of the ones he wants something from.

I'm so glad that the entitled Nice Guy trope is steadily dying down now. Ross Geller, Ted Mosby and Dawson Leery should REALLY start an "Entitled Nice Guy" support group, since their toxic behaviour REALLY hasn't held up well over the years.

Men have absolutely no idea how “natural” really looks like.

why is incel vocabulary so viscerally nauseating 😖😖😖