The Roman pilum is the javelin that everyone associated with Legionaries and with good reason, it was used for hundreds of years......countless battles and skirmishes. But how far can it be thrown and what does it do when it gets there?
We need to find out, so borrowed some pilum, built a throwing machine and recruited an experienced thrower to set the distance.
I contacted Oxford University Athletics Club and recruited a Team GB javelin thrower, Michael Allison to throw and establish a reference distance; and boy can he throw! Thanks very much to the club for allowing me to film there.
Michael's Insta page is here https://www.instagram.com/m.f.s.allis...
Oxford University Athletics Club Insta page can be found here https://www.instagram.com/oxforduniat...
If you are interested in custom medieval reproduction weaponry then visit https://todsworkshop.com
If you are interested in properly made medieval knives, daggers and maces this site will interest you https://todcutler.com
Merch can be found here https://todsworkshop.creator-spring.com
Many thanks to Adam whom I borrowed the Pilum from - much appreciated.
The Roman pilum is the javelin that everyone associated with Legionaries and with good reason, it was used for hundreds of years......countless battles and skirmishes. But how far can it be thrown and what does it do when it gets there?
We need to find out, so borrowed some pilum, built a throwing machine and recruited an experienced thrower to set the distance.
I contacted Oxford University Athletics Club and recruited a Team GB javelin thrower, Michael Allison to throw and establish a reference distance; and boy can he throw! Thanks very much to the club for allowing me to film there.
Michael's Insta page is here https://www.instagram.com/m.f.s.allis...
Oxford University Athletics Club Insta page can be found here https://www.instagram.com/oxforduniat...
If you are interested in custom medieval reproduction weaponry then visit https://todsworkshop.com
If you are interested in properly made medieval knives, daggers and maces this site will interest you https://todcutler.com
Merch can be found here https://todsworkshop.creator-spring.com
Many thanks to Adam whom I borrowed the Pilum from - much appreciated.
1. Armour, no he should not of been wearing it and yes I should absolutely have highlighted that this would effect distance and that is my mistake. The reason he should not be wearing it is that wearing an (almost inevitably) badly fitting set of something and the lack of familiarity and chance of injury means that I would be crazy to ask him to and he would be crazy to say 'yes'. But this is a hole in this test for sure. I hope he will be back and then he may be willing to wear mail as that would be the gentlest type, but for those thinking segmentata- no way. I could however find an experienced reenactor and if he can throw XXm in armour and XXm out, then these figures could be extrapolated to Michael's throws.
2. Distance. Michael threw long and can certainly get longer, these were genuinely his first few throws and so you have to assume there is plenty of room for improvement, which may partially offset his lack of wearing armour. So Michael threw mid 20's m and then 28m on his first two, then went up to mid - 30's, and then with a running throw, his first two were in the low 40's. Was this typical? Who knows?, but it does prove that it can be done. Was it done at these distances? everything happens in war, so sometimes yes, was it the norm? If you thrown vigorously and relatively unskilled (me) then it does start to tumble out at about 15m, so maybe for the panicked and pressed this was more realistic.
3. Trajectory and speed. Let's set some targets up and find out. the machine was set to throw at 36 degrees, which is about what Michael was throwing at and the distance was about the same, so the speeds will be about the same. Is there a speed difference and so energy/momentum difference at 15m compared to 30m? My feeling is little, but if there is ever a motto for this channel it is "let's find out".
4. Patreon. I have an idea.....I don't currently have Patreon, and these films are all self funded and so I was thinking of making a simple offering. I make a film like this one for instance, then the Patreon offer would be a follow up film with me talking through some of the comments and ideas that have come up (for instance the evident spin on the throws - unexpected) and effectively respond to my own films and of course the odd Tods Workshop and Tod Cutler dagger draw. Not asking for commitment, but would this be of interest?