Don't worry guys season 3 will get good

It’s a show about redemption but they actually killed off Adam instead of making him a sinner having to redeem himself back into Heaven’s ranks🫩

Am I the only one who thought the "I'm having sex with everyone!" Joke would have been way funnier and less hypocritical if, instead of cheering, the entire club just went quiet and cricket chirping was heard?

" You shouldntcredit the show for quality and meaning that fans created for themselves" is a banger

Honestly it would’ve been interesting if Charlie’s motive changed and maybe she realized maybe redemption and heaven aren’t exclusive to each other and maybe focus on making hell itself better.

The whole finding sobriety angle would make sense, if the show had the guts to actually show the effects of drug addiction. This show is terrified to show any serious subject matter with maturity.

The entire show gives me the vibe of being written by someone who grew up Christian, stopped going to church as a teen, and never deconstructed any of the beliefs they were raised with beyond believing in a god.

What strikes me as odd is that no one in Heaven seems to care about Adam’s death. Aside from Lute, no one seems concerned about him?

the whole reveal of Vaggie being an ex-angel should've been the subversed part, have Adam do the "she's been lying she was killing your people too!" scene and have Charlie just say "So?" and when they're confused have Charlie pull Vaggie away from them and say "I'm not like you, I judge people based on who they are NOW, not who they used to be." because that's like THE WHOLE POINT of the redeeming sinners plotline, that Charlie believes that people who did bad things can change their ways and be better.

the revelation shouldn't have shaken Charlie and Vaggie's relationship as much as it did, it's a BIG secret sure and there's gonna' be some hurt between them, but if they're as close to each other as the series wants you to believe they are (though showing us barely any of it might I add) they should have left heaven, had a short back and forth about it back in hell, maybe a few moments where they don't know how to act around one another and then a nice, long conversation about things that ends in Charlie reinforcing her core beliefs; "I don't care who you used to be, because I love the person you've become."

"Did they write this scene backwards?" I hate to say it, but after season 2, it feels like that was how everything was handled

i read an article that discusses how, intentionally or not, the way sexuality is expressed in hazbin hotel is actually really conservative. like, charlie and her girlfriend's relation is considered Good and Right and theyre never seen doing anything more than a light kiss, while the other gay characters are Bad and Evil and have So Much Gay Sex All The Time. and when you combine that with everything you bring up its paints a picture that i dont think they really intended, but goes to show how unconscious biases manifest in works

It's so sad that Angel Dust is so controversial, because the way he acts MAKES SENSE for his trauma! The abused becomes the abuser, but the narrative just never explores it, they never clarify this and then it just becomes an unfinished arc in a way. He IS a bad person, he's in hell, bad people become worse in a bad envirioment. The potential this show has to dive into psycholgy but doesn't, kills me

I rewatched Steven Universe recently, and I was blown away by how it really nails this thing where it's only tonally  'child friendly' because we are seeing it through Steven's eyes, and how you can really feel the adults trying their best to shield him from how serious their world is. And then that slowly starts to crack as he grows up, and more and more it's revealed to him how complicated all his family's life really is. It's a masterclass in the point of view dramatically shifting the tone of the media.

Its almost like the good place actually did this concept justice and hazbin hotel is just a bunch of cool character designs with nothing of value to add to that conversation

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING OUT THE EXORCIST DEATHS!

It drives me INSANE to see how no one cares they died. And then were eaten by cannibals. Why the hell aren't angels dong anything?? Why does no-one care? Were they not people? Is the random chick we see having a breakdown in Vaggie's flashback someone we're supposed to care about?? WHY? AND why does Abel not give a fuck they ate his father?!?! It's fine if he was a shitty dad and they had a fraught relationship, but Abel seems pretty damm affected by Adam's supposed opinion of him! God dammit PICK A LANE

Hazbin hotel is a show about redemption, that’s not about redemption.


There are a million things you could do to write it better but people will try to defend it like the writers didn’t have complete control over how this would go XD

Something that frustrates me about season 2 is that the framing presents Sera’s mistake not as committing genocide, but as committing genocide against the “wrong people”. She is perfectly fine with killing people who can’t rise to heaven, but the second someone can THATS when she feels guilty. The narrative does not question this, and perpetuate the narrative that lethal punishment is okay as long as it’s used against the right people.

It's a show that's more fun if you don't think too much on it...which is sad because it does want you to think it's deeper.

Bad art deserves to exist. Just look at all the interesting ideas people have in the comments that are based on Hazbin's flaws.
Also, for the newer artists and storytellers out there: this "bad art" got a budget and a huge fandom, so don’t be shy about sharing your art and stories!

The main problem of Hazbin Hotel is that they want Heaven and Hell to be both "the good and the evil" and "the oppressor and the oppressed" simultaneously. And you... can't do that. It doesn't work, and it won't. Either Heaven is a good place for good people, Hell is a bad place for bad people (like cannibals, serial killers, etc., like we can see in the show) and you can redeem bad people in Hell for them to become good and therefore move to Heaven... OR Heaven is a bad oppressor and people in Hell are oppressed by them. YOU CAN'T DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. You can't treat Heaven and Hell as both moral categories and a social hierarchy that needs to be broken.

Everyone wants to do the "Heaven is not that good and Hell is not that bad" stuff nowadays and it's great but you need to actually think how to do it so it would work.