Fun Fact: these aren't separate pod casts. They have been sitting there, in the same spot, talking non-stop for years.

Jiu jitsu summarized
Instructor: ok so here’s how you choke someone on the ground
Me: but how do you get them in the ground ?
Instructor: . . . .

Wrestling summarized
Instructor: ok here’s how to take someone down
Me: ok what do I do from there
Instructor: . . .

Wrestling and BJJ just need to become one fully integrated martial art already.

As a wrestler, I’m saying objectively, that wrestling is the hardest and most important sport of all time.

At my gym we train all grappling arts and honestly you need the Big 3 grappling trio(Wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, Judo), you need to know multiple takedowns and how to defend them, many submissions from numerous positions, and the unorthodox judo flips people won’t be expecting. These three truly will help your game so much I promise you

I’m a wrestler and it’s like this. Wrestling will give the aggression, the muscle memory to stay on your feet, never be on your back, get off the ground quick as well as the strength and cardio from wrestling. BJJ will give you the submissions that wrestling lacks to finish a fight.

Echo is such a softly spoken unit

I was the smallest Marine in my unit, and I beat everyone matched up with me with no official grappling experience besides being an all-state wrestler. I never knew how much wrestling helped me, until I was against some of the biggest Marines around.

I just started BJJ barely a month ago, and I wrestled in high school for a few years. I can say wrestlers going into BJJ will have way more comfortability and will learn the moves A LOT quicker and easier then one who has not wrestled

From someone that trains both wrestling and jiu jitsu, Jocko is 100% spot on.

Too be fair, most high school wrestling rooms have a certain amount of grind and external motivation, not to mention they do it every single day for a couple months. Its a bit harder on a casual adult schedule.

He’s not proficient in BJJ....he’s a wrestler who’s learned to avoid certain positions. He’s still using his wrestling. And he has years of it. Obviously a dude with an excellent boxing can become serviceable at kickboxing much faster than someone with no training. The skill set crosses over.

Wrestling is just grappling without the submissions. Add submissions and you are dangerous.

Wrestler here, I learned how to cable choke and immediately was able to go toe to toe with some JuJitsu buddies

High school wrestling were some of the best years of my life. Been considering getting into BJJ for a while now, there’s a reputable gym about a half hour from me. Just gotta make the time and find the motivation.....

Wrestlers are tough. I have such a hard time with wrestlers.

Soon as Jocko said “when you get good at jiu jitsu” a ad came on that said “you should get firearm insurance” lol. Came in so perfect lol 👌🏿

I wrestled in HS and did some BJJ in college, and my favorite guy to go against was this Georgian judo black belt. It’s so fun seeing people from different backgrounds meet in the middle in BJJ. We took each other seriously and it was so fun getting our throws and takedowns in. He was very serious, I think both as a Georgian and judoka it was his attitude. I loved it about him. My BJJ instructor instantly knew I wrestled on my stance alone. I was surprised how few guys in our class had wrestling experience. Like two others. They were fun to roll with too. And they were good. One was from Cali, and he was fun as hell. I wrestled in Vegas so I was used to wrestling Cali wrestlers. And I will say that besides the roughhouse lineman farm boys, the difference between the ones who had wrestling and judo experience vs the pure BJJ guys—even higher ranked belts, it was just different in mindset, grind, toughness and overall attack-style. I was kinda surprised how I would kind of “win the battle” in a way—kind of putting the hurt on them, applying all that pressure and doing what wrestlers do—but the better Jiu Jiteiro would still end up winning the war because they rode it out and knew the submissions. It was fascinating and very fun.

I'm a juijitsu guy, not a wrestler but I always feel like these arguments are always unfair to the wrestlers.
They always argue wrestlers can't finish fights while juijitsu can.
But are we talking about and MMA fight or a BJJ competition??!
Ofcourse BJJ wins in a BJJ competition.
But in a fight if a wrestler can take you down hold you down and punch your face in I think he wins, a wrestler probably wins more times than a juijitsu guy with no understanding of wrestling.
Do I have a point here or what?

I started wrestling around my 5th grade year in school and I was immediately pretty successful at it. I won district championships 6th, 7th, and 8th grade and did some freestyle on the side. I was a 4 sport athlete to start, doing every sport that was available for me in middle school. My freshman year in high school I remember I was on the football field and it was halfway through the season and a few of the popular kids got to play every second of every game and I had played maybe 2 plays on defense at the very end after the game was already won or lost. One game, I was just chilling on the sidelines and a receiver for the other team had caught a pass and was flying right at me and all I did was put my arms up and deflected him off me so he wouldn’t smash me. Well I guess the refs thought I needed to catch him. He bounced off me and flew about 15 feet behind me into a concrete wall. I could hardly believe what happened, whistles were blowing and people were all screaming and yelling. I had teammates laughing and cheering me on telling me it was funny as hell, the coaches from the other team were screaming about it and I had no idea what happened. But when I looked down and saw the kid on the ground upside down against that wall behind me I seen between his face mask and realized it was a kid that used to pick on me back in elementary school. Some of the guys on my team remembered him and it was a great payback, but completely inadvertent. I was celebrated as the “stick” of the week for that, and it was by accident on the sideline. That was when I quit football, and all other sports and I became a wrestler all year round. Those early years in wrestling were crucial because we do not naturally know how to manipulate another human body that is pressing on you. So only after years of wrestling do you start to develop those fundamental skills that make it so you can grab onto another person and push or pull or tie and Schuck him off and you can set up your offense based on the kniwledge you have that his body will react a certain way to all of those movements. The best way to set up a great throw is to give him a good hard shove and he will automatically push back into you because he doesn’t want to get run off the mat. The moment you shove into him then you don’t have to wait for him to react, you already know it’s going to happen, and you can just fold down below him and throw him in a head & arm and his momentum will carry him right over the top of you. Wrestling is unparalleled in preparing someone for combat. Because just in my wrestling careeer because it was so popular and during the season we had duals every week and tournaments every weekend, I wrestled I estimate 400 matches. There is no other discipline that would give you even close to 400 live matches of experience against other opponents that also work hard at wrestling. It’s not a joke. My senior year in high school I wrestled 50 matches alone and I went 36-14 and got 4th in the state tournament. After that much live wrestling for so many years there is nothing to grabbing onto another human being and exacting forces necessary to subdue them any way you choose. It is all second nature by this point. If a wrestler grabs hold of a guy that never wrestled he can do any number of moves on him and before that person has even figured out what is hsppening to them, the wrestler could have shot a double leg, lifted with his hips and jacked him high in the air, and as the guy is falling transition into a leg ride so even before they hit the ground the wrestler would already be working on his 4th or 5th move and the guy that hit the ground has no idea what is happening. Wrestling is just a must to develop those fundamentals to be perfectly comfortable grabbing people and having them grab you.