I no longer take any notice of what comes from the Vatican or any new books. I will cling to the magestrium, the Roman Rite I recieved my first Holy Communion in and the Cathecism of the Catholic Church. As far as I am concerned the Vatican is full to the brim with HEREITICS! I still attend the NO the 'NEW ORDER' which fits well today with the 'THE NEW WORLD ORDER.' If and when the words of conscrration are changed which they will then I will leave, stay at home and pray.
βAll the numbers are there, people just canβt add them up!β Father Hilary Meny, circa 1987 So it was then (when the numbers were still somewhat obscured), and so it is now when the numbers are emblazoned everywhere continually by the raging βpopeβ heretics Duh
Thank you for introducing this new work. I'm not a fan of synodality, the way it's being done in the Roman Church. I am extremely suspect (to put it mildly) of pastoral planning which involves discontinuity with Sacred Tradition (ST) and/or Sacred Scripture (SS). Sadly, there were and are many proponents of V II who used the Council as a jumping off point for expressing views that essentially constituted a rupture with ST. Some of these were periti at the Council. In the 1980s and 90s, I saw firsthand how they and their theological followers in faculties of Theology (where most clergy, bishops and many religous were formed), in dioceses and in religious communities - often espousing openly dissident views - were promoted, celebrated and frequently published. Their legacy continues in the synodal Church, I fear, though there is a growing swing back to the authentic faith. I am very hesitant to condemn the Council. I believe many theological and Church "influencers" of their post-conciliar day took the proverbial ball and ran with it to lengths the Council never intended.
If there never was a Vatican II the Church would still be plagued by the modernist attitudes rampant in Western society. They battle is not with our Vatican II Church it is with a sophisticated devious movement that wants to remove God from society, destroy the family unit, sexualise our children and makes us nothing more than meat puppet consumers. That influence may be reflected in synodal gatherings but we should also be careful not to react and become Catholic purity elites who also put our ideas ahead of the Church.
Like the Qur'an, critiquing the Vatican II is forbidden because some of what is contained in it cannot bear analysis because the assumptions upon which some things are based are false. Also Vat II seems to be viewed as infallible and must be believed. What about the notion that Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims all believe in the same God? Since God never changes and Jesus said that no one can go to the Father except through Him doesn't it follow that those who do not believe in Jesus don't believe in the same God as those who do believe in Him? Therefore we don't all believe in the same God. Isn't it true to say that we all believe in the same God we should all be worshipping Him together?
Our Lady of Medjugorje said fill your day with short and ardent prayers π July 25,2005 Jesus Mary I love you save priestly souls, save souls. I beseech thee, grant me to repeat this act of love a thousand times with my every breath, my every heartbeat Prayer saves 1000 souls, purgatorial sinful and innocent π Imprimatur Vicariate of Rome 1983
Vatican 2 sect is not the Catholic Church can you imagine Saint Patrick coming over to try convert druids with the Vatican 2 teachings he wouldn't convert them rather he would look for what is good and respectful in their faith traditions and Ireland wouldn't have converted
The Protestants can believe in whatever they want to believe in he is the arbiter of his own destiny his views and beliefs and opinions matter And looks like the synodal church wants this to be the new direction of the church As the old saying goes all together and one at a time
Vatican 2 gets blamed for many things it does not say. I'm not saying it was perfect. Many of the toxic sede vacantists feed off this excessive criticism, however.
I read a very well researched article many moons ago titled the destruction of reason and it got me to thinking it all began with the so called early church fathers back in te day.
Have you listened to people who stopped going to Church? I've never heard one person blame Vatican II. I've never heard someone say, you know what, I really don't like that I'm not supposed to hate Jewish people or other denominations anymore. You're more likely to hear the sex abuse or the fact that people just don't believe in God anymore so what's the point.