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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong — Historian Mark Moyar

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00:00 Trailer
01:13 Why America Entered Vietnam
05:32 From Cold War To Boots On Ground
10:04 The Gulf Of Tonkin Controversy
16:38 Ad: Hillsdale
17:42 Search And Destroy Strategy
26:00 The Tet Offensive Shockwave
30:05 Could America Have Won?
33:09 Ad: Monarch
34:25 Race, Protest & Vietnam Trauma
43:47 My Lai Massacre & The Pentagon Papers
48:35 Ad: Snakzy
50:01 Nixon, Kissinger & Watergate
59:27 Was The Domino Theory Right?
01:03:44 Hollywood’s Vietnam Narrative
01:07:44 Ad: AG1
01:09:10 How Vietnam Changed America
01:17:57 Ukraine, Israel & Distrust In Government
01:28:44 What's The One Thing We're Not Talking About

20 Comments

@triggerpod Creator 4 months ago (edited) Pinned

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@gregoryparsons7692 4 months ago

The media is out to sell a story. Not necessarily tell a true one.

@dosdont 4 months ago

How North America underestimates the damage the News media are responsible for is astonishing to me. The news media is more responsible than politicians.

@markworden9169 4 months ago

I was a kid during the war and what I remember was all the negative coverage, my dad said at the the time we would have lost ww2, if it was all negative coverage like in Vietnam.

@diaa9011 4 months ago

As a Thai, I’m deeply grateful to the Americans who fought in this war. Without that sacrifice, countries like Thailand could easily have fallen into communism. Many Americans today may not fully realize how important it is for America to remain a strong global power, because that strength has helped preserve the stability, freedom, and comfortable way of life many people enjoy today.

@augmenautus 4 months ago

The Ho Chi Minh trail gets discussed alot, but most supplies were actually shipped in to Haiphong harbor in North Vietnam from Russia. Lyndon Johnson refused to place naval mines in Haiphong Harbor to avoid harassing the Soviet Union, but Nixon did place mines immediately cutting off Russian aid to North Vietnam. This was so effective the North Vietnamese immediately asked to negotiate. If we had placed those mines at the very beginning of the war we would have done much better.

@Joebar6611 4 months ago

i retired after 26 years in the Army. This is not news to any of us who served.

@factsoverfeelings-24-7 4 months ago

Walter Chronkite had a lot to do with it. Seen a few testimonials talk about how old Walt said we lost a battle we had in fact won.

@schweinhund7966 4 months ago

With very few exceptions, politicians have held troops with two hands tied behind their backs since the end of World War II!

@josephglaeser9674 4 months ago

I think Matthew Ridgeway, the general that saved American and UN forces in the Korean war said something like “the only thing worse than getting into a stupid war is losing the stupid war”after he had advised the Kennedy administration to stay out, but if we were gonna go in go in with the intent to win. I might’ve butchered that “so it’s more of a paraphrase.

@carrdoug99 4 months ago

My 90 year old father, who fought in Vietnam, hates Jane Fonda as passionately today as he did during the war. I remember his number 1 complaint during that time. "We fight and die to take territory just have the politicians give it back to the Vietcong." It took him a long time to get over that war.

@gregoryparsons7692 4 months ago

The Tet Offensive was a complete defeat for the North except in the eyes of the media. The media skews everything by what they choose to tell you and what they choose not to tell you. What they emphasize and what they downplay.

@whodat9198 4 months ago

As a veteran of Viet ancestry I’ve been waiting for people to wake up to the facts of that war versus the leftist media narrative

@willnailer2118 4 months ago

When General Loan executed the VC cadre in front of the camera, it was pretty damaging visually.
The story not told was the VC cadre had executed the Generals family a few friends and neighbours.
He also bragged to the General how he made each victim point out who they loved the most and executed that person in front of them. Some of the victims throats were cut that bad, their heads were nearly severed.
The picture never told that story.

@ChuckParker-j4k 4 months ago

My previous comments were based on a lot of research for my book, which was an adaptation of my doctoral dissertation. This one is based on my experience. I commanded an artillery battery in 1971 near the Cambodian border. I am proud of my service and my soldiers. I would match them up with any who have brought great credit to themselves and to the United States Army.

@Will-j1e5v 4 months ago

I did two deployments, including Tet, in the Seabees.
My experience was that our forces were throttled by politics.

@CaptainCompassion1 4 months ago

Drafted in '67. In country in '68. Could have the US won? Hell yes.

@hennessyblues4576 4 months ago

My father was in the TET offensive. He was a Medic with the US Army. Crazy part was my grandmother told me that before he went over there, he would attend family BBQs and always liked his steaks done medium rare. When he came home from Vietnam, from then on, every steak had to be well done to damn near burnt. He could never eat red meat again.

@Footballar09 4 months ago

I cannot believe you had this gentleman on the podcast! I had an honors history course in college, where I study the Vietnam war and I read his book of responses to other historians critique of his book triumph
forsaken. I love the incredible way he broke down the arguments and revealed a much better and less one sided historical perspective. Going through that historiography was a huge reason why I ended up majoring in history in college.

@robertcapetillo9470 4 months ago (edited)

I've studied multiple conflicts and the influence of propaganda through the media has become as big of a threat as America's enemies themselves. The world takes this and enemies external and internal have effectively pressured American policy enough to limit actions to the point of ineffectiveness.
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