00:00 “My First Toy Was an AK-47” — Teaser
00:28 Introduction: Who Is Kamal Saleem?
01:19 What He Was Taught About Jews and Christians
04:14 Childhood, Rejection & the Road to Radicalization
09:59 Entering Fatah and Militant Training
10:37 “My First Toy Was an AK-47”
12:34 His First Mission Into Israel at Seven Years Old
14:29 Recruiting Other Children at Eight
15:33 The Mission That Ended in Tragedy
18:28 What Violence Does to a Child
19:40 Kamal’s Encounter With Yasser Arafat
21:17 His Journey Deeper Into Jihad
22:13 “Civilization Jihad” in Europe
23:52 His Mission to the United States
26:00 Meeting Christians and Jews Changed Everything
30:32 Carrying a Jewish Flag for the First Time
33:35 A Crisis That Changed the Course of His Life
33:44 Kamal Describes His Spiritual Encounter
36:13 From Hatred to a New Mission
39:15 October 7, Hamas & the Ideology He Recognized
44:23 Can Palestinians and Israelis Live in Peace?
46:33 His Message to Muslim Children Taught to Hate Jews
49:08 Kamal’s Books, Ministry & Final Message
51:41 Closing


Kamal Saleem says he was recruited into radical Islam as a young boy, trained in a PLO camp, and sent on his first mission into Israel at just seven years old.

In this extraordinary conversation, Kamal takes us inside the world he says shaped his childhood—from poverty and rejection to militant training, carrying weapons into Israel, and eventually recruiting other children himself.

He describes the psychological impact of violence at such a young age, his encounters with Yasser Arafat and other figures in the Middle East, and what he calls “civilization jihad”—an effort he says ultimately brought him to the United States.

But Kamal’s story took an unexpected turn.

After a devastating car accident, the kindness of Christians and his first meaningful encounters with Jewish people began challenging everything he had been taught. Kamal recounts the spiritual crisis and religious experience that ultimately transformed his worldview and led him from hatred of Israel and the Jewish people to openly standing with them.

We also discuss October 7, Hamas, whether Israelis and Palestinians can eventually live peacefully alongside one another, and what Kamal would say today to a Muslim child being taught to hate Jews.

This interview reflects Kamal Saleem’s personal account, experiences, beliefs, and analysis.

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