Irish Mob vs Italian Mafia — Who Really Won? Ex-Capo Decides
Michael Franzese
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People, let me set this straight right now. The first real organized crime gangs in New York weren’t Italian. They were IRISH — decades before my people ever got off the boat. The Forty Thieves, the Dead Rabbits, the Gophers, the Hudson Dusters. They owned the docks, the unions, and City Hall. So here’s my question: if the Irish were first, why is there no Irish Commission? Why was there no Irish Luciano?
I knew these guys. I did business with the Westies. Jimmy Coonan was a stand-up guy — and I know more about Jimmy than most people do. Some of that I’ll get to. And I’ll correct a few things the legend gets wrong: the Gambinos didn’t partner with the Westies out of fear, and Fat Tony wasn’t the real power behind that deal.
We go through all of it — Hell’s Kitchen, Whitey Bulger and the biggest law enforcement scandal in mob history, Danny Greene in Cleveland — and then I give you my verdict. Because the answer to who won isn’t about who was tougher. A feared crew dies with its leader. An organization replaces him by Tuesday. That’s the whole difference.
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00:00 The Irish Were First. So Where's the Irish Commission?
00:35 Welcome — And a Quick Word on the Diddy Verdict
01:33 Were the Westies Really an Organization?
02:20 Why There Was Never an Irish Luciano
03:38 What I Know About Jimmy Coonan
04:05 The Forty Thieves — New York's First Gang Was Irish
04:42 Dead Rabbits, Whyos, Gophers — They Owned the Street and City Hall
05:44 The Westies — Hell's Kitchen, Coonan & Featherstone
06:20 We Didn't Partner With Them Out of Fear
06:56 Fat Tony Wasn't the Real Power. The Chin Was.
08:15 A Feared Crew Dies With Its Leader
08:47 What Made the Italians Different — The System
10:14 Jimmy Got 75 Years. The Westies Went With Him.
13:22 Whitey Bulger — Boss and FBI Informant
15:00 Danny Greene and the Cleveland War
16:13 My Verdict — Hierarchy Beats the Neighborhood Crew
17:39 Why the Family Survives the Boss
18:48 Could a Non-Italian Ever Be Fully Inside?
20:28 Did We Use the Irish for Work We Wanted Distance From?
21:51 Were the Westies Really Independent?
23:14 They Had Killers and City Hall. We Built a System.
23:53 Text Me — Who Was More Powerful?
24:33 A Glass of Wine and a Slice
25:56 A Warning for the Ladies — Please Be Safe
29:42 Franzese Fam, Lives & Ministry Monday
31:25 I'm Not Going to Hell for Anybody
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However the Irish mob lacked the structural organization of Cosa Nostra. As such they had no real leadership or sense of unity.
As for the Jewish mob, Jews and Italians have historically gotten along well, due largely to having similar family-based and hospitable cultures, as well as both being perpetual outsiders.
The Irish were persecuted in America as well, but many ended up becoming police and firefighters while the Jews and Italians were still, at the time, largely barred from such professions.
Irish Mob vs Italian Mafia — Who Really Won? Ex-Capo Decides
Michael Franzese
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People, let me set this straight right now. The first real organized crime gangs in New York weren’t Italian. They were IRISH — decades before my people ever got off the boat. The Forty Thieves, the Dead Rabbits, the Gophers, the Hudson Dusters. They owned the docks, the unions, and City Hall. So here’s my question: if the Irish were first, why is there no Irish Commission? Why was there no Irish Luciano?
I knew these guys. I did business with the Westies. Jimmy Coonan was a stand-up guy — and I know more about Jimmy than most people do. Some of that I’ll get to. And I’ll correct a few things the legend gets wrong: the Gambinos didn’t partner with the Westies out of fear, and Fat Tony wasn’t the real power behind that deal.
We go through all of it — Hell’s Kitchen, Whitey Bulger and the biggest law enforcement scandal in mob history, Danny Greene in Cleveland — and then I give you my verdict. Because the answer to who won isn’t about who was tougher. A feared crew dies with its leader. An organization replaces him by Tuesday. That’s the whole difference.
#IrishMob #Westies #Mafia #WhiteyBulger #MichaelFranzese #OrganizedCrime
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00:00 The Irish Were First. So Where's the Irish Commission?
00:35 Welcome — And a Quick Word on the Diddy Verdict
01:33 Were the Westies Really an Organization?
02:20 Why There Was Never an Irish Luciano
03:38 What I Know About Jimmy Coonan
04:05 The Forty Thieves — New York's First Gang Was Irish
04:42 Dead Rabbits, Whyos, Gophers — They Owned the Street and City Hall
05:44 The Westies — Hell's Kitchen, Coonan & Featherstone
06:20 We Didn't Partner With Them Out of Fear
06:56 Fat Tony Wasn't the Real Power. The Chin Was.
08:15 A Feared Crew Dies With Its Leader
08:47 What Made the Italians Different — The System
10:14 Jimmy Got 75 Years. The Westies Went With Him.
13:22 Whitey Bulger — Boss and FBI Informant
15:00 Danny Greene and the Cleveland War
16:13 My Verdict — Hierarchy Beats the Neighborhood Crew
17:39 Why the Family Survives the Boss
18:48 Could a Non-Italian Ever Be Fully Inside?
20:28 Did We Use the Irish for Work We Wanted Distance From?
21:51 Were the Westies Really Independent?
23:14 They Had Killers and City Hall. We Built a System.
23:53 Text Me — Who Was More Powerful?
24:33 A Glass of Wine and a Slice
25:56 A Warning for the Ladies — Please Be Safe
29:42 Franzese Fam, Lives & Ministry Monday
31:25 I'm Not Going to Hell for Anybody
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