"Heating knowledge has been lost because a plasterer and a chippy can put in a combi boiler" - Tommy hitting such a serious point there.

shall we do a gofundme for 3 more mics?

The solution could be solved by passing a law that all heat pump installs need SCOP monitoring & funds are withdrawn for installers who fail repeatedly

All we need now is an army of problem solvers per household plus a  technician owner to monitor.

I'm from NZ where heat pumps are normal, as gas isn't mostly available. We saw the exact same issues with heat pump installation errors when the gov incentivised them over there too- inadequate insulation to start,poor fitting problems by those in it for a quick buck. Imo heat pumps are great but get a good installer and make sure your house is insulated properly first

When I started in the heating business 60 years ago as an apprentice most houses were heated buy coal in the living room and an oil stove elsewhere. Now everyone has central heating but it’s taken 20-30 years to get there. Heatpumps will eventually become the norm but it’ll take an equal amount of time and just like in the passed there’ll be crap installs that will have to be fixed.

perhaps a bit of a solution is to have accredited heat loss surveyors, (holding a recognised qualification) who are only involved in providing a service for the homeowner,  and have no ties to any installation providers, this survey can then be given to installers, if Heat Geeks don't need to go through that process, but know that the survey itself can be trusted, this would free them up to do more instals reduce their costs, and hopefully provide a recognised body doing the surveys and meeting certain standards, and having some sort of responsibility for if they get it wrong.

I learned something new.  That technique for folding them is brilliant!

Great words from all of you. Now I can only share me thoughts of the years I have been in the industry. Firstly the training is not there. Colleges are only interested in one thing. Success rates. Colleges do not have the resources or the educated tutors to teach this. I myself was a lecturer for 10 years teaching the next generation of plumbing an heating engineers. Don’t get me wrong there are some good apprentices  out there but disadvantaged by today’s educational system.  I have tried so hard to change the minds of my superiors with no avail. I now with all my knowledge have gone back on the tools installing heat pumps as I did 20 years ago.

Needs to be more of this and solutions, this is what will grow the country, planning, like USA and micro chips, to name one.

I had my install done by octopus and they estimated my heatloss for needing a 11kw unit. I presented by winters gas consumption for last year which showed my heatloss is less than 5kw and begged them to put a smaller 8kw unit in. They did not listen and fit a 11kw unit in. Its now costing a fortune to run and I will never get good COP till they put a smaller one in. My existing HP is now being used as a boiler with constant fluctuations as its cheaper to run it that way. If I keep it just on it cycles every half hr or so.

The work you do on this channel is wonderful. I really appreciate your dedication to being open, putting yourself in situations where you are challenged, and having an open and honest conversation. Thank you.

Thanks for sharing

Ill stick with my wood burner and an extra jumper - old school😅

I've been watching Roger since the beginning.   I trust him.

Not a video to be missed but I'll be watching it later before I get a kip.

This was a really good session. Thank you.

Wow, finally we are getting some common sense discussion around heat pump installations, thanks to Skill Builder and Heat Geek.  The fault here lies completely with the Government, the lack of training, the lack of properly qualified and experienced heating engineers and the fake news that is constantly circulated stating that heat pumps don't work.

My takeaway from this is that the old guard are going to retire and the newly trained engineers are going to be left sorting out the massively inefficient heating systems we've all been led to believe were the bees knees. We've been overpaying for our heating for decades and just wasting fuel. If a house with 9" brick and some additional loft insulation can be 500%+ efficient there is just no excuse. It's just been done wrong for decades.

The problem that's clear from this debate and where Skill Builder gets it wrong is in the education. Well educated engnieers, technicians will work wonders in making the system you have purr like a kitten and equally make it last a long time and courses should exist for FREE to ensure that this happens. Connect and walk away is premised on the idea that the system should probably just deliver 20% more than the user wants as hotter is typically preferable to cooler for most people - but in this there is massive waste, oversizing is wasteful. How many billions of m3 of gas have been wasted by humanity in just upping the temperature instead of investing in insulating properly a home, tightening up the envelope and doing it PROPERLY. This whole debate comes down to one thing: Do we give a crap about doing it properly ? We should. Well trained engineers and technicians, that are well paid. Forget individual small business who are inhernetly unstable and frequently go out of business, nationalise a state company that carries a huge energy transition project out for millions of homes with tens of thousands hired to do it and do it at a highly accredited level. Government are constantly waiting on capitalism to get this right and it clearly doesn't because profit becomes more important than the task at hand.