Fantastic video which illustrates that modern life doesnt have to be bombastic and confrontational all the time! Reasoned, respectful debate. Well done 👏🏻

I think what could be a very interesting video is if you two colab and buy a run down house together, renovate it from the ground up showing us how you can make it the most efficient possible with heat pumps, insulation and everything and document the series! Would be a great watch. Especially now we need to aim for at least EPC C!

I'm pleased this wasn't a gladiatorial point scoring debate! Well done to you both!

Titanic was unsinkable, never say never.

Very balanced video, the truth is always somewhere in the middle

I agree with Roger 100% about how education, or rather having educational material at hand on the internet largely goes over most of our heads, because we're not just talking about how powerful an engine we need in our car but something that is a lot less proven, as the discussion revealed. I am one of those who would be easy swayed by a salesman with a gift of the gab and a few persuasive figures to be totally coned into purchasing something that brings me nothing. So being the way I am I must say I'd be wise to side with a gentle dose of scepticism. thanks Roger.

See, now THIS is a video that REALLY helps all parties involved! When everyone from BOTH sides can learn from each other and try to move forward together toward a common goal of making things better for humanity and all of the planet as well, that is where humanity moves forward in leaps and bounds and actually does the hard work of advancing technology and the understanding of the tech we already have as well as helping governments to see what should and perhaps shouldn't be done to help move things toward what is best for the world in general. This video was no small contribution by any means, BRAVO!!!!! I'm from the U.S. and now I'm interested in the Heat Geek course even if I don't become an installer. Thank you for this video, it was great!

Classic example of seeing the world how you want it to be as opposed to accepting the world as it really is

Love the comment on leaking showers, my upstairs shower installed by a plumber leaks, the one I installed downstairs  doesn't, I'm not a plumber 🙃

Love both your channels. This was really interesting. I'm hoping you take Heat Geeks invitation up to follow one of their installations because we know you will tell it like it is. Frankly if you decide heat pumps are the right choice in some circumstances if installed right, ill probably get one!

Cellphones are hugely subsidized in the US in network build out, improvement, and maintenance.

Politicians take a good look and learn from this discussion , this is how you should talk and react  in a debate .

I think I’m so convinced not to go heat pump, I think HVO fuel is a much better way.

The main issue is the installation cost of air source including the cost for having it designed compared to having a combi boiler installed most normal familys can not afford the heat pump or afford to run it along with running immersions to get hot water

Both these guys are real assets to the industry

I give this to Roger. I could say more. But Roger your arguments are pragmatic and realistic.

Great to have this discussion. We must learn to listen to others then make our own decisions

Just watched your heat pump vid for the second time, followed by one featuring heat geek and "urban plumbers" slagging you off and one with urban plumbers on another install where he has fitted two of the most ridiculous sized rads I have ever seen in a domestic setup. What I did notice in their vids is that they don't mention price and their systems are set up in a what appears to be complicated way and in ideal situations (space, cost no object, big money spent on insulation etc). In fairness they do point out these facts but without a hint of irony that they are in fact proving you right with regards to expense, exact ideal conditions etc and that unfortunately in the real world these conditions seldom exist. I also note that the promoters of these systems have skin in the game ie. they're making money out of it, so of course they skim over the negatives. Again as you pointed out in your vid re diesel car etc this could turn out just another one of these misguided fads. I have watched a few of your vids now and as best I can tell your channel is purely information and advice, so I believe you when you say you'd be the first to fit it and probably have a vid out about the install. So anyone new to this or doing your research, I'm in the building game myself (not particularly heating/plumbing per say, but I can't fault your logic) and I really don't think Roger will steer you wrong, you can tell he didn't start in this game yesterday or the day before that, his advice is clearly based on experience. Thanks Roger keep up the good work, much appreciated.

Roger has convinced me never to trade my combi in for a heat pump, heat geeeks really didn’t convince me with their technology either

Nice conversation; good to talk it out but Roger is an old fuddy duddy ( like me). Natural gas was a great idea in 2001 when T Boone Pickens was promoting it as a transition from coal. But now we’re in the electric age and need work together on all aspects: heating, cooling, transportation, industrial manufacturing, grid inter-connectivity, and storage (as Roger lauded to). These are all challenges that can be overcome if we work together and don’t just say ‘that doesn’t work very well now; it will never happen’.
BTW in America heat pumps are a minor upgrade to central air conditioning and thanks to global warming we all need cooling and heating now.  
Thanks Exon