Go back OUT OF THE BOX ENCOUNTERS: http://bit.ly/OotBEPledgeManager

I am a dungeon master and I enjoy level 20 characters because I like being able to throw at them WHATEVER I want

We all know he only wants to get to level 3 anyway, this was obvious

“But you’ll probably never reach level 20. You either die from your own fireball or killed by your pissed off allies who were caught in your fireball.”
-Jocat

"Level 20 is good on paper." Good thing D&D is on paper

The most fun I've had with a lvl 20 character was not playing them. My lvl 20 Bard, named Jack, became the God of Luck at the end of our game and one of my friends, in our next campaign, started the game as a Cleric of Jack and proceeded to honour/make fun of my old character for the duration of that campaign, making up stupid doctrines and traditions based on the events of the previous campaign that amused the whole group. Watching my friend play that character was more fun than playing my lvl 18-20 Bard ever was.

Next XP to Level 3 video:

Dice are dumb (D&D)

Jacob slides up from a leather couch, dice pouring from his mouth

Level 20 games is where the Wizard spends his off time in his own demi-plane, making the occasional stop to the Abyss to capture a demon within a soul cage to use in a spell, the Fighter is leading an army the size of a city around, the Monk spends his time ontop of the peak of the highest as a timeless being, meditating and achieving transcendance and the Paladin is arm wrestling with Solar's in Mount Celestia. During game time they are fighting Demon Lords, Ancient Lich's and Cthullu whilst hopping around the Astral Sea in their own magic space ship.

Personally, level 20 games can become fun for the dm in the moment you stop throwing monsters at the players and instead you start throwing other parties at them.

“A lot of level 20 abilities are powerful to the point of being game breaking.”
Me: Cries in Ranger

To loosely quote the PHB:
Levels 1-4: Apprentice Adventurers
Levels 5-10: Defenders of kingdoms and cities
Levels 11-16: Saviors of regions, even continents
Levels 17-20: Literally the fundamental order of the multiverse hangs in your hands. You're the heroic archetype, or you've become the villain. Literally what the book says.

...so yeah. Levels 11-20 are for superhero movies.

"Rogues, probably the simplest class at level 20"

Tough talk for someone within stroke of luck sneak attack distance

When we reached lvl 20 back in my day, we started travelling the planes, and killed everything we didn't like. It was glorious.

People: I never went above lvl 10

Me, never having past lvl 3: you guys are getting levels?

“High levels are dumb!”
Me: planning a high-level campaign involving the players killing demon lords
( ._.)

Get them to 20, have them do something evil (you know they want to). They become the villains. Make new characters, then do a campaign where the old ones the bad guys

I think the key to making a campaign for level 20 characters is to realize that the structure of "There is a place with a guy doing a thing that you need to stop" no longer works. There needs to be either a large problem that requires many steps to solve, or everything is on fire everywhere. That way, you can build encounters and plot beats to fit into whichever encounter they DON'T completely destroy by turning everything in a half mile radius into acid or whatever, and despite being singularly invincible, your players are still challenged by the simple fact that they can't be everywhere all at once.

“How is it fun to run level 20 campaigns”

I do this thing in my games where rather than some big bad, the characters fight an embodiment of something. This can mean they fight the Trickery Domain, the Necromancy School, but they don’t fight a person or beast. It makes sense that when the characters become what the dmg describes as “masters of the world” that they fight evils (or goodness) that is beyond an angel or a demon, but that they fight the cosmic power behind it

Level 20 players: I have a wish spell, the demi Gorgon is dead.

Good dm: now it's a litch.

“It’s ya boy, loud annoying guy that talks about role playing games”

Ah, a god then.