I’m here at Harvard in the office of Steven Pinker. He’s written nine books and spent his life studying language, cognition, and writing. In this interview, we started with the practical: the rules of writing. But what makes him unique is that he’s been thinking about AI since the 1980s. So if you’re interested in doing great non-fiction writing in the age of LLMs, this interview is for you.
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:28 Why Is There So Much Bad Writing
00:07:05 How To Make Your Writing Visual
00:11:50 What Makes Writing So Much Harder Than Speaking
00:14:18 Why Examples Without Context Are Useless
00:20:07 What Makes Writing Beautiful
00:22:35 Why Academics Are Such Terrible Writers
00:25:14 What Kids Teach Us About Clear Explanations
00:28:33 Why Shorter Writing Is Always Better
00:34:53 Why AI Writing Feels So Bland
00:41:16 How AI Would Rewrite My Books
Hey! I’m David Perell and I’m a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible.
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I’m here at Harvard in the office of Steven Pinker. He’s written nine books and spent his life studying language, cognition, and writing. In this interview, we started with the practical: the rules of writing. But what makes him unique is that he’s been thinking about AI since the 1980s. So if you’re interested in doing great non-fiction writing in the age of LLMs, this interview is for you.
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:28 Why Is There So Much Bad Writing
00:07:05 How To Make Your Writing Visual
00:11:50 What Makes Writing So Much Harder Than Speaking
00:14:18 Why Examples Without Context Are Useless
00:20:07 What Makes Writing Beautiful
00:22:35 Why Academics Are Such Terrible Writers
00:25:14 What Kids Teach Us About Clear Explanations
00:28:33 Why Shorter Writing Is Always Better
00:34:53 Why AI Writing Feels So Bland
00:41:16 How AI Would Rewrite My Books
Hey! I’m David Perell and I’m a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible.
Follow me
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSbo...
X: https://x.com/david_perell
Some lessons I picked up from the interview:
1. The curse of knowledge is the biggest threat to clear writing.
2. It can be harder to write about a topic you’re an expert in because it’s so easy to forget what it's like to not know something, which makes you overestimate what the reader knows.
3. The easiest way to fight this curse of knowledge is to show drafts of your writing to people outside your field.
4. Shakespeare said: "Brevity is the soul of wit." The point is that saying something in fewer words will almost always make it better because it requires less cognitive load for the reader to understand.
5. Ok, let's try again: Saying something in fewer words will almost always make it better.
6. Ok, one more time: Remove needless words.
7. One reason why writing is harder than speaking is there's no real-time feedback. You have to imagine the audience's reaction.
8. The best thing you can say about how LLMs write is that the sentence structure is sound. But the downside is how generic and banal the outputs are.
9. 18th and 19th century writing is more vivid because the abstractions that modern writers use hadn't been invented yet. Calling somebody "pathologically aggressive" isn’t nearly as vivid as saying: "They grabbed me by the throat."
10. Generalizations without examples are useless, and examples without generalizations are pointless. You need to marry them both. Generalizations show the big picture. Examples make them concrete.
11. The more vivid a piece of writing, the more people can form a mental image of what you’re saying. Avoid abstractions: frameworks, paradigms, concepts. All those things. Get concrete, so people can see what you’re actually talking about. For example, don’t talk about a “stimulus that awakened your senses” when you can say: “I got excited because I saw a cute bunny rabbit.”
12. Academic writing should be clear. I mean… if the taxpayers are funding most of the research, shouldn’t they be able to understand it?