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Everyone seems to have a theory about how other people cheat their pushback nosecones. Let's look at the most common complaints and see if an active Race Director and Steward has seen any of them or if he thinks they are just competitors' paranoia.
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0:00 - Intro
0:19 - Pushback nosecones
0:42 - What you think people are doing
1:22 - Am I seeing any of these?
1:35 - Roughing up plastic
1:43 - Knerling the front bumper
1:53 - Glueing the slide
2:17 - Heating and crushing the slide
2:36 - Bumper Clips
3:43 - Long upper bumper bar
4:52 - How to improve pushback bumpers
5:25 - What do you think?

Written/Performed/Created by Rob Oakman

20 Comments

@kartaroundtheworld 1 year ago

people also heat the bumpers themselves to make them softer. They also put a small piece of tyre rubber between the bars and the black plastic piece. Also, they flex the bumpers agains the ground to create a "weaker" spot on the sides of the bumpers, so if you hit someone from the side of the bumper, the corners will flex and not activate. Also, I've seen people going back to the pre-grid on the cool down lap, entangling the activated front bumper with other driver rear bumper, braking it so the rear bumper will pull the bumper back to position. It's difficult to do, but I've seen people sucessfuly doint it.

@TheGlobalMind 1 year ago

You mention the hand tightening of the bumper brackets. One of the interesting rules is that the bumper bracket must be able to be removed by the driver, without tools. Now, in JR and below classes it really can't just be the driver. If the mechanic can tighten them pretty damn tight by hand, that should be fine, even if the driver (the kid) might not easily be able to release it. In all our series the mechanic is called on to remove the bumper if asked. I never use tools on mine to tighten them. Always by hand - and it's really the flipping down of the lock that's the hard part... but I do get them tight.

@user-me4bv6tv1m 1 year ago

Hello everyone, in my opinion the front bumper should be assembled by the driver after checking the entry into the pre-grid. In reality it is a regulatory accessory that everyone has to overcome anyway. In reality it takes a lot of work away from the commissioner. But it is necessary to do something for the sake of the truth, yes it is.

@user-hc3zt4wp3k 1 year ago

If you mount one of the push back on the top mount and the other on the lower mount it’s super hard to get a push back

@harleylif1929 1 year ago

I think back to the 1980s and we had no big plastic bumpers, no plastic side nerfs and just a bar from frame rail to frame rail in the back. We did not have a problem with drivers running into other karts because most times it would not end well so we just had good racing.

@an9na9r 1 year ago

mine never work for me. Some races I will hit people or barriers and my front fairing will not be pushed inside at all however sometimes even the smallest contact seems to push it in. I got taken out by another driver and very slightly hit someone else with my front, only enough to maybe make them lose traction for a split second however this was enough to press in my fairing fully on one side resulting in me receiving a penalty for something that was truly not my fault. it is definitely flawed but it does sometimes at least help stop other drivers from being too aggressive

@Mahatheyew 1 year ago

I used a pushback nosecone once at a National race, then back to club meetings they aren't used but I just never took mine off. I've crashed multiple times and while my nosecone got hugely damaged, the pushback system didn't engage. The only time it did, was off a start where I got shunted from behind into the driver in front of me. Which wasn't my fault but would have got me penalized anyway (if the rule was enforced at club meetings). The system is flawed.

@jamnchips 1 year ago

One thing I've always thought some might be doing is deliberately attaching the nosecone way too easily, such that if it falls off it can simply be pushed back in with a foot after the race. Especially since catching this would be difficult I wonder if people actually do this

@bai7200 1 year ago (edited)

The bumper it self it being heated so it gets softer, the KG is very easy to get soft so its very forgiving.
I have seen the black pushback attachments being modified, very rarely (as in never) have i seen it being meassured.
The trick with over tightning the clamps is very used, a lot are unable to remove them without using tools..
Is the pushback bumpets perfect, absolutely not, but after we started to use then in 24 we have seen a clear drop in drivers being pushed off, and the first corner incidents have been reduced.

@johnheath9151 1 year ago

10 years ago. If someone said ill put a panel on that will come loose. You'd kick their arse. It's moronic.

@charleshulsey3103 1 year ago

Why not mandate a linkage from the nose cone to the brake pedal, such that contact applies the brakes. Like a surge brake on a trailer.🤔

@ovedach 1 year ago

bumpers in the sun .... molding them and making them softer ... so that the bumper itself just crumbles when it was supposed to hit the push ind drop nose system.

i myself is kind of against the push in noses ... first of all, once you have a penalty, you cant get more.... so from there you free to run everybody off ...
people just use sidepods for same action now also....
În general officials should have more power to hand out 3 sec, 5sec, 10sec - blackflags. etc.

@etutwiler 1 year ago

I am sure there are some pretty smart people that can manipulate these. The majority of them are going to be in the back. All we do is spray brake cleaner on the rubber to make sure there is no buildup of dirt and oil. If the bumper is pushed in a couple of times, we replace the rubber pieces (for big races)

@anthonyfrattaroliracing 1 year ago

If you haven’t seen any of these tactics at tech that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not being done, just means they’re not the ones winning… maybe should focus more on driving and setup and less on stopping a bumper pushback hahaha

@matthewallen5399 1 year ago

If they are working as intended what stops the guy in front from brake checking you to make you get a penalty?

@lvchlann 1 year ago

baby proofing the sport and taking away responsibility from the stewards and officials to give out proper penalties, unfortunately bumping etc is so supported in all sorts of american motorsports that the kids grow up watching nascar drivers doing it and thinking it's ok because they see their idols doing it.