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If Christ Is Enough—Why Can’t You Know You’re Saved?

Canon & Creed

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What happens when the Church is certain, but the believer isn’t?

In this episode, we slow down a recent discussion between evangelical YouTuber Ruslan KD (‪@RuslanKD‬) and Oriental Orthodox apologist Mihret (‪@theburningbush318‬) on justification, faith and works, perseverance, and assurance of salvation.

Ruslan gets pressed hard on Protestant theology throughout the conversation. So we’re going to examine those challenges carefully, clarify where his answers needed to be stronger, and ask whether the pressure being put on Protestantism actually holds up when the same questions are pushed all the way through.

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0:00 Can Christians Lose Their Salvation?
1:23 Can Christians Have Assurance of Salvation?
4:19 The Oriental Orthodox View of Justification
9:31 Justification vs. Sanctification
11:02 Day of Atonement: Forgiveness vs. Cleansing
14:14 Imputed Righteousness vs. Inherent Righteousness
20:17 Philippians 3:9 and the Two Righteousnesses
25:03 Imputation, Union With Christ & Duplex Gratia
27:33 Faith Alone vs. Works: Ruslan & Mihret
31:49 What Sola Fide Actually Means
35:38 Is Faith a Work? 1 Thessalonians 1:3
37:29 What Is Saving Faith?
41:30 Dead Faith, Demons & Augustine
46:10 James 2: Faith, Works & Justification
47:28 Are Good Works Necessary for Salvation?
50:14 Necessity vs. Causality in Salvation

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20 Comments

@jevonmatthews8616 1 month ago

Ruslan’s theological threshold reminds me of those magnetic carts at Walmart that stop abruptly when you try to take them out of the parking lot. It’s abundantly clear when he’s reached his limit in a theological discussion.

@tategarrett3042 1 month ago

I really appreciate how you slow down these conversations and get at the underlying issues.

@TimHamilton-hy5jt 1 month ago (edited)

“Imputation cannot be properly understood apart from the context of union with Christ. The righteousness by which I’m justified is Christ’s righteousness reckoned to me. And the Christ to whom I’m united also renews me by His Spirit.” Justification and sanctification are distinct but never separate 🔥

@ChristusVictor116 1 month ago

C and C is every EOs worst nightmare.

@saf3777 1 month ago

Myles I think it's time to get in the ring with Orthodoxy and do some sort of series, because this religion is being shilled and pushed literally all over YouTube. There is an obvious spiritual agenda.

@SanQuentinBreakfastEater 1 month ago (edited)

Maybe if Ruslan cant defend his theology with fairly basic understandings of Protestantism, he shouldn't be doing what he's doing on YouTube. Where is his heart here, that he invites false faiths on to run roughshod over him and he doesnt bother to prepare or learn or think through his own theology? He's damaging his own supposed faith with his laziness and willful ignorance.

@ainamanicolleb 1 month ago

Keep teaching

@leekessler9785 1 month ago

“Who Shall Ascend…” is such an awesome book! One of my all time favorites!

@skylerharris3914 1 month ago

I would love to watch an unscripted reaction to some of these sometime. Love watching you Miles.

@TimHamilton-hy5jt 1 month ago (edited)

The context of “take heed lest you fall” in 1 Cor 10, refers to the disobedience of the OT Israelites resulting in many of their deaths. Paul points out these admonitions to exhort Christians to beware these examples lest they lose their lives as well in sinful disobedience. The Bible teaches that God’s covenant people may be cut down in temporal judgment but are spared eternal death.

@andrewhambling 1 month ago

Greetings from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Miles, looking forward to seeing you defend the Classical continental Reformed position in moderated debate. It’s time Classical Reformed wipe the floor with clear biblical exegesis and the traditional worship grounded in RPW.

@SugoiEnglish1 1 month ago (edited)

Augustine and Aquinas both taught that the predestined /elect have the gift of perseverance (POTS). Calvin simply sharpened it up by pointing out that they (the elect) can know that they have it!

@Theology-For-Life 1 month ago

When Mihret says you have to "be vigilant and worry am I really standing," I think Philippians 4:6 is an often overlooked passage. Paul says "be anxious for nothing." Does that include our perseverance in faith? Should we be anxious for nothing except whether we will persevere? Certainly if we are not to be anxious about what we will eat or wear, we can be much less anxious about whether God will preserve our faith.

@BlueLake7 16 hours ago

Hereby we know we are saved ( passed from death unto life), when we love the brethren. The Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirit. We are given the Holy Spirit to seal us and to lead us into all good works. If you do not know you’re saved, you’re probably not. When we are saved we become a new creation in Christ Jesus.

@coryanderson5210 1 month ago

1 John 5:13
Romans 8:16
Ephesians 4:30
John 3:16
John 6:29
John 6:35-40
John 10:27-29

We can definitely know if we’re saved, as clearly said in the scriptures above. We can also fall victim of the accuser and deceiver into doubt, worry and fear. We can also fall from the grace of God, meaning our mind becomes fixated on our works or goodness to stay saved rather trusting in the grace of God. This doesn’t mean one can be taken out of the hands of God. If we are His, we will be chastened. If we are His and don’t heed to His chastening, we can die an early death due to sin and our poor testimony of Christ towards others. We must continue in His word, study, examine, ask for His guidance and trust He will perform the work in us until the day of the Christ.

@williamnathanael412 1 month ago

Very helpful. I didn't know that under the Papist distinction of initial and progressive justification, even the initial one is by grace alone without our cooperation, it is still infused/inherent righteousness. That's where the distinction lies, I believe.

@Rawjugga0 1 month ago

The uncertainty relates to one striving to finish their race. It's really simple. The pride in believing you will finish your course is harmful to your soul. Fight the good fight, finish your race and keep the faith. That is a struggle daily and the future is not known.

@JiiV3e 1 month ago

5:40 man the use of that Luther’s metaphor annoys me so much. It does not even cover half of what Luther believed about salvation.

@Dingledong-kb5ne 1 month ago

Canon and creed is becoming what jay dyer is to the orthobros, to Protestants 🤣 love your stuff brother

@hurdleguy8014 1 month ago

So as a pastor, I have thought about this section of the video a lot. I completely understand what the deacon is saying. I think we all can agree, him included, that we can know when we enter into Christ initially. That by grace have been saved through faith in Christ. This is our initial justification and initial salvation. Now, we must continue. As Paul says we have been saved, are being saved and will be saved. Now, I understand the deacons position. His great confidence is in Christ, but he would say that he can’t with 100% certainty of the future that he’ll go to heaven. Why? Well because he understands he is finite and can’t see the future. What IF he rejects Christ later? He can’t know that, only God does.

So in that sense I totally understand where he’s coming from. I think our daily confidence is in Christ. And our future hope is Christ and seeing him face to face. I think it’s truly in humility that someone like himself says what he says here on not knowing. However I think easily this could be a prideful response depending on the person. Putting up a false humility.

Just some thoughts