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The Ghost of October 7th, Wild Polling — and a Response to Mamdani

Unholy Podcast

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Three years after October 7th, and eighteen days before Israel votes, this third anniversary felt different from the first two — and yet it may not move a single vote. With no state commission of inquiry, a flydubai near-disaster that echoed the state's failures and polls that point in wildly different directions, Yonit and Jonathan ask if the question of Netanyahu's responsibility has already been priced in by the Israeli electorate. They discuss whether a restrained, divided opposition is fighting according to the rules against a campaign that is not, and whether Avigdor Lieberman could end up in the prime minister’s chair - as the leader of a realigned right. Outside Israel, Zohran Mamdani and the Green Party of England and Wales approached October 7th in something other than solemn mood. Plus: a crowded field for Mensch of the Week and a Chutzpah award that takes aim at punctuation.

0:00 October 7 commemoration
3:56 Unfinished trauma
9:22 Election polling analysis
14:44 Political coalitions
17:22 Netanyahu's political survival
20:02 Opposition campaign strategy
23:58 Liberman's role in politics
29:33 Global reaction to Oct 7
34:03 The genocide charge
37:46 Green Party controversies
45:20 Chutzpah award
47:03 Mench award

4 Comments

@bhishammansukhani3469 12 hours ago

when you responded to a deadly terrorist attack with genocide and the destruction of a entire nation, then you are no longer a victim. you are the war criminal. you are evil.

@yaeltal5367 13 hours ago

Jonathan is cutting corners again. Avinatan Or didn’t just say he recognized the humanity of the people in Gaza, he also said he understood the need to kill them, because they had told him they would never stop the war until every Jew in Israel was dead. Furthermore, he noted that when he spoke with his captors about humanity and what they had in common, he was not yet aware of the October 7th atrocities or their full scale something he only discovered after his release from captivity.

@sam23513-u 1 day ago

Listening to this episode, does anyone get the impression that Jonathan and Yonit would like the Anti Bibi left wing Eisenkot, Lieberman and Yair Golan block to win the election? Yonit might consider practicing toning down her political leanings over the next couple of weeks so she can have a chance of coming across remotely fair and balanced on election night.

@rosspollard6411 7 hours ago

I think most people who use the word genocide, do so because they can then compare Israelis to Nazis. And most of them aren't even against genocide as they claim, because if you ask them about October 7th, they'll say it was justified as armed resistance.