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The whole “girls don’t like nerds” idea completely disregards that girls can be nerds too. If you’re a video game nerd or DnD nerd and want a girlfriend, I guarantee there are girls who are into video games and DnD, but those same male nerds tend to interrogate those girls as “fake fans”

Honestly, nowadays everyone has a "nerdy" hobby and these classifications don't really apply anymore

It reminds me of that quote from the social network “you're going to go through life thinking that girls don't like you because you're a nerd. And I want you to know that that won't be true. It'll be because you're an asshole”

edit: holy fuck the replies are all incels. it’s just a movie. relax.

Jocks can be caring and respectful,  just like nerds can be douchebags.

They deserve to be treated well by the woman that chooses them. They deserve to be honestly looked at and not just brushed off because of surface level. But they're not entitled to the affections of women who don't want them, whatever the reason. People like what they like.

As much as I love Carly I will NEVER get over her doing Griffin dirty like that. Him having a hobby that he was he was really passionate about was a green flag to me. I blame the show's bad writing for his character taking a nose dive. Him being a bad boy with a soft side was perfect. There was no reason for them to dial his obsession up the way they did

I feel like nerds being portrayed as creepy or just straight up sex criminals is very common in media and is just as likely to be how they are portrayed as just being shy and socially awkward

I think the Griffin scenario is particularly egregious because of the way they degraded his character. I genuinely believe in his first appearance he is genuinely a dude with a bad attitude who just so happened to have a strange hobby. He never did anything wrong to deserve being incessantly mocked, or have his character flanderized so much. And the show doesn't make it seem like Carly is being shallow, they try to make it seem like she DID dodge a bullet because he likes stuffed toys. I remember watching the episode as a kid and feeling like I had to get rid of my pokemon collection because clearly that would ruin any chance I would ever have of getting a gf. It's messed up to teach kids that someone's interests are a valid interest to be mean to them or ignore them.

I grew up nerdy and in geek,band and anime fandom and i can tell you nerds are nice.

They bully each other too, I was told I wasnt a real girl in middle and highschool but I grew into my looks and the same nerdy guys that called ne ugly and not a real girl are asking me out as if they didnt trash me through out school.

Alot of then think their better than the 'normal' guys but sometimes they have more in common with their bullies or are worst

These narratives also push the idea that the nerdy guys SHOULD be with the hot girl who has absolutely nothing in common with him, just because he’s “nice”. As many other commenters have noted, there are plenty of women with similar interests that would likely be better suited to the nerds. But no, they need the popular girl because it’s merely an underdog power fantasy.

The bad boy isn't a nerd, he's a geek. The chategories overlap but nerds are agreed to be smart usually anti social or otherwise introverted bookworms, geeks are primarily known for their obsession and wealth knowledge of whatever topic they're geeks about.

And what doesn’t get talked about enough is that the nerdy girl always has to change her looks and becomes super hot to get either with the hot guy or the other fellow nerdy friend she always gets the makeover. Meanwhile the nerd boy just stays who he is and still gets the “”perceived hot chick.

What I hate the most about that TBBT episode is that they were just so close to make a good point about the percieved "geek culture" in a contemporary setting. Sheldon confronts Penny for what she said to Leonard, pointing out that there isn't anything inherently wrong about collecting toys responsibly and that, technically, ahe also collects stuff in the fashion that stereotypical 80s culture would consider "geeky" and "worth ridiculizing". They were so close to saying something about the fundations of what this show stands from (that is, outdated stereotypes), but they just scoffed that away quickly to go back to the same cheap comedy.

As a nerd myself for as long as I have been, if there is the type of nerds I hate it is the ones who change themselves into in an attempt to be liked by some girls they like. Throwing away your own self respect like that for the hopes of a girl to like you is pathetic.

While I agree that a lot of nerds in media are misogynistic creeps and that deserves criticism, I do take issue about your assumptions when you said to the audience, "come on, you wouldn't want this either". There are female nerds out there who themselves LARP, I think they'd enjoy doing so with a loved one. Same with Griffin's peewee baby collection - if someone damaged my kpop album collection I'd be as angry as he was. My bf and I met through being anime fans. I would personally find someone without ANY nerdy hobbies to be incredibly boring to spend an extended amount of time with.

2:22 something quirky like this would be celebrated on tik tok like “look how cute my bf is bc he’s secretly soft but also very handsome”

It's kinda weird how much Dan Schneider hates nerds when he definitely fits the stereotype and then some. I don't know if it is some kind of self-hatred he is projecting onto those types of characters but it is strange the amount of vitriol he has towards nerds despite being one.

Being a nerd doesn't make you a good person, but being popular makes it easier to get away with being a bad person. So, to a certain extent, it makes sense to think that nerds are less likely to be bad persons.
Also, good people can so bad things and bad people can do good things. Life is made of greys.

The nerd stereotype has been disastrous for non traditionally masculine men