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Two happy divorced parents are definitely better than 2 unhappy parents that stay together.

My husband went to school with the boys. He said the family was sick, and he couldnt stand stand being near the father, that he was creepy and very touchy....and he is still so very sad that the boys were convicted, he knows those boys were physically and mentally abused. It is such a sad thing that boys and men are to this day not considered TRULY sex abuse victims.

It’s uncanny how many parents treat their children similar to this and expect them to grow up and be normal functioning adults

That ending was totally unexpected. I really do think the fact that they were abused makes a massive difference, they deserve a new trial. As a survivor of childhood physical and mental abuse, it really does mess with your head. It feels like living in a war zone and you’re constantly on edge. I would be lying if I had never considered ending the scumbag that abused me, at the time and every now and then since.

I think this episode exemplifies the rule "Don't screw up your kids " More than any other CC so far .Such an incredibly dark ,strange and very,very disturbed family .Those boys were always going to be a mess in one way or another, despite all the privilege and opportunity .

It is absolutely possible he decided to get Kitty pregnant 'all on his own'. She wouldn't divorce him, nonconsenual sex between spouses wasn't rape and abortion was off the table. Husbands were privy to their wives medical records at the time as well, so no hiding birth control, if she were even inclined to use it.

I remember my mom stood very firm on the boys being abused.Mostly because my uncle was in prison with Eric for a time and said he believed his side of things and that he was a really nice kid.

Yay, the whole episode is up now! This is the second longest one I've written this far (the longest is coming out soon!) so I hope everybody enjoyed...you know, as much as you can enjoy horrible stories about murder and abuse. For everyone that was hear yesterday, 1:38:00 is about where we left off.
And for anyone who gets the reference, one of the title cards was supposed to be Judge Weisberg Does Everything Twice Twice (Totally get why Simon assumed it was a typo)
Also, apologies to Mark Jackson and his fans. I for some reason write Johnson the first time, despite looking directly at the card, then just referred back to the incorrect name I had written at the start.

I thought I was going crazy when the episode went missing.

there were also naked photos of them found from around at 6-8. from the chest down. found in an envelope with kitty’s handwriting on it. very dark and upsetting that they got life without parole.

Dad Simon gushing over his kid(s) is downright adorable.

Wow, we really were just fed one side of the story here in America. This video totally changed my mind how I felt about this trial. I was around 15 when it was televised and everyone I knew thought they were completely guilty.

On their comment of "being sociopaths" to the therapist, aside from accepting a label thrown at them by a therapist when they confess to murder: At least one was diagnosed with PTSD. When you have pretty severe PTSD, sometimes your empathy can, essentially, "switch off," in a way. To kids who have probably heard the term psychopath, then finds themself having periods of reduced empathy, mixed with anger that they do not see in other people... it isn't unreasonable to assume that they could have genuinely believed that.
Then they had three years for that anger to somewhat resolve itself, leaving pain, shame, self hatred, isolation, ect., to fill a part of you that had only had hate and fear in it for most of your life.

It’s amazing how things have changed. I was in high school in the 80’s. It was absolutely the belief that boys couldn’t be sexually abused.  Really that stuck around right in to the 2000’s.

I think the phrase “Over convicted” is spot on

countless defense witnesses (including many family members) believe the brothers 100% and i think that says a lot.

So...having lived with an overbearing parent past the age of 18, Eric was probably put under incredible mental pressure by his parents to sign that consent form

As someone who grew up around Princeton (and even knew people who went to Princeton Day School), I can assure you that rich, mediocre students are common at Princeton. There are many bright people too, but if you have the cash, gentleman C's are definitely a thing.

If an 8 year old tells you they're being sexually abused...idk that holds some weight. Especially against parents who were neglectful at the best of times and psychologically/physically abuse the rest of the time.

Still guilty, but with severely extenuating circumstances that were not allowed in court.