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Lie-Nielsen vs. Veritas Bench Planes | Tool Duel #5

Matt Estlea

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"In this video, I compare No.4 Smoothing Planes and No.62 Low Angle Jack Planes from Lie-Nielsen and Veritas. The aim of this series is to inform you on all the similarities and differences between the various models and help you to make a better choice when buying your next tool. Which plane is best for you?

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20 Comments

@MattEstlea Creator 7 years ago Pinned

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@shanelandon7593 5 years ago

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@sosrob8085 8 years ago

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@ward459 8 years ago

Great review. One point about the bronze finish on the Lie-Nielsen is that it won't rust

@TheLastPharm 5 years ago

"... because I'm sad like that" lol; ohhhhhh, SOOOO relatable!!!

@hassleoffa 6 years ago

I've got one Veritas ... it's magnificent. I can't wait to get another.

@greggmiller6623 4 years ago

One thing you neglected to cover with the L-N #4 Smoother -- it has the ability to change frogs from the stanmdard 45 deg pitch to a different pitch for 50 deg, and 55 deg on both the #4 and #5 planes.

@midi510 4 years ago

I like having all my planes from the same manufacturer, too, which is Lie-Nielsen. Every time I pick one up, I get satisfaction from the feel of the handle in my hand.

@DanielGuillette 6 years ago

Very helpful review, I ended up going with the Veritas. Little less costly for extra blades as well and different hardness options. I really like the design of their saws and have many of their backsaws. So when it came time to get a low angle jack I really wanted a Lie Nielsen but the features you mention really helped seal the deal. Thanks

@mtjgoeke 8 years ago

Who does not enjoy your fresh and honest approach. Haven’t seen any video from you that isn’t all thumbs up.

@mgildersleeve 7 years ago

I love these style of videos you make. So informative. Thanks, man.

@thesergeant3524 9 years ago (edited)

Great comparison. Agree with your assessment as well. I have several LN planes, with my favorite also being the #4 bronze, but when it came to the LA Jacks the Veritas is just a more functional plane. I think Veritas has their joinery plane line and their LA plane line dialed in and are superior but there is just something about the traditional feel, look and quality of the Lie Nielsen hand planes that make them a pleasure to use.

@damonrondeau8416 8 years ago

Very informative & comprehensive -- thanks for this!

@markkulyas2418 3 years ago

Thank you, I was on the fence but your review has made up my mind.
Stanley it is👍

@benschmolze1266 7 years ago (edited)

Thanks for the video, Matt.
I started off with all LN planes and have slowly been falling out of favor with most of them and swapping for LV.
What I find to be major deal breakers in the LN are:
- Lateral slop in the bevel up planes (lots of it!)
- Adjusting cutting depth also shifts the blade laterally when you don't want it to
There is an aftermarket part called the "Howard Adjuster" made in Australia, designed to eliminate the friction between the adjuster and blade. So obviously this is a big problem. That part is around $30, and generally LN is already significantly more costly then LV, so I'd rather just buy the LV.
I also have the LN #4 bronze smoother. Beautiful tool once set up but extremely fussy and the lateral adjuster is almost useless. Ultra sensitive. If you feel it move, you've moved it too far. Also massive slop in the adjusting knob - I'm talking like two full turns of slop!

LV solves all this with the lateral set screws. It's extremely handy to be able to pop out the blade for a quick honing and pop it back it exactly where you had, and have it stay put when changing cutting depth, as I do often.
I also personally like the Norris adjuster on the LV block planes. LN you have to basically do it with your hands as there's really no room even for a hammer tap.
With the set screws, there's no risk of skewing the blade with the Norris adjuster.
I'm considering installing set screws in my LN low angle block and jack planes.

LN looks way better to me, and seems to be higher quality casting and machining, but function of the tool is more important and to me LV wins hands down.

@andrzej3511 5 years ago

It seems that both companies produce the best planes in the world, the differences are really small. From this video for me it is clear that it is not minor differences that determine which of these planes are better, it seems that personal preferences (and of course prices) are key factors.

@takeniteasyfriend 5 years ago

Thanks for the help. Looking to buy my first jack plane. Discussing the nuances is important

@tobarapprentice6618 9 years ago

Great video. I only found your channel yesterday, but have watched several of your videos; thoroughly enjoying them. Looking forward to seeing more. Cheers.

@elim7228 1 month ago (edited)

I only own one Veritas plane and it's the low angle block plane with replacement handle and knob. That thing is amazing and comes with a powder steel PM V11 Blade. That thing is made better than a Space shuttle.