"I leave scars, guards at arkham..." Skarsgard played Pennywise, so the line can read "I leave Skarsgard at Arkham". Dope wordplay.

“As far as Mr King goes Im a shining man, wink” is also a flip on how Jack Nicholson played the joker and the dude in the shining

"I'm the poster boy for missing person's posters." Is kinda gnarly ngl

"Harlequin of Hate" is not a reference to Harley Quinn- it really is one of his nicknames in the comics, albeit a more obscure one

"You're supposed to be The Man Who Laughs" from Pennywise is a play on the 1928 film "The Man Who Laughs" which served as a partial inspiration for the Jokers character design. A really nice big brain film punch on that one if you catch it.

"We live in a society" has been a punchline for pretty much anything for a while now. Basically a way to say "the world's fucked but we live in it."

The “Im a Shining man” bar was cause Jack Nicholson was in The Shining and also played the Joker in Batman 89

Now this I agree with. I do think Joker gets the single hardest bar with the PG-13 thing, which is incredible considering it's up against the Heath Ledger line, and Joker is all witty and classy in a way that makes his pen stronger in general -- but Pennywise is too mean, too petty and too consistent. It lives in the sewers, what do you expect.

Two of my favourite brags from ERB are “I’m the John Wayne of John Wayne Gacys” and “I’m the poster boy for missing persons posters”. There’s something so evil about them without being graphic or violent.

The John Doe bar is so underrated I appreciate you breaking it down. The Joker at times has actually been called John Doe too so it is a little diss at him too (I think it was the telltale series)

Joker got a hit in when he said
"I take smiles and I leave Scars
Guards at Arkham will admit"
There was an actor named Scarsguard who played Pennywise.

Additionally, the "We live in a society" was done for the meme. It may have been a Jared Leto thing, but it was the best thing to come from the Jared Leto Joker, and so he's owning it. Which also kind of takes some of the wind out of the Jared Leto punch Pennywise made.

The "You're a John doe in my dead lights" plays off no one knowing the jokers real identity

"I’m the John Wayne of John Wayne Gacys" is such an underrated bar. If you know the history of John Wayne Gacy, it hits different outside of referencing the real life killer clown.

John Wayne Gacy was named after John Wayne because his dad wanted him to be that pinnacle of a stereotypical man, so what Pennywise said was "I'm the pinnacle of Killer Clowns".

The joker prefers the shining because Jack Nicholson played the joker and was also in the shining.

Joker's pen was way better in this. But in a 1v1 battle, his punchlines didn't have enough direct punches at Pennywise. If it was a cypher, "Ask Robin if I drop bars" would be the hardest line here, but in a battle, it loses a bit of the impact to win.

Crazy how Penny countered Joker's Arkham (Lovecraft) reference with an Edgar Allan Poe reference, since Lovecraft looked up to Poe for inspiration, like a Robin to his Batman. Crazy.

Glad you got that “This battle is like poker, the joker is useless” line. I remember you talked over it last time.

The “John Doe in my Deadlights” line is multi-layered. First, deer in the headlights implies that Joker is going to freeze under pressure. The Deadlights are the supernatural extraterrestrial force that It actually “is”. And “John Doe” is what unidentified human remains are often referred to; In other words, Pennywise is calling Joker a nobody compared to him.

“Ask Robin if I drop bars” that gets me every time 😤

Thats "youre as pale as the moonlight you can dance with the devil in" is a hard line.

Its a reference back to the first batman movie with Michael Keaton as the bat and Jack Nicholson the joker. In that movie it was a younger joker who killed Bats parents. When he killed them he asked "have you ever danced eith the devil under the pale moonlight" then blamo-ed them.

Later one Bruce is in his gals apartment when joker and his crew bust in and before he shot Bruce (he had a vest on so he didn't die, just pretended he did) joker asked him the same question about the dancing with the devil under the pale moon light.  Bruce finally had all the answers hes searched for about who killed his parents and they became arch enemies from that line on.