Its so funny how Gabriel switches from being genuinely caring towards his son to actually not giving a single shit what happens to him

Honestly the show didn't know if they wanted a serious villain or a entertaining cartoony villain and ended up making neither and just made this pathetic depressing slop. his peak was 100% gorizilla it's the time where he's the most interesting and it's down hill from there imo

I think the actual reason why Gabriel relies on Chloe so much is because the writers desperately want to double down on their flimsy point that Chloe is an unlikeable irredeemable monster who doesn't deserve to be happy in life. It's basically just damage control.

I completely agree.
I still think Its funny how Felix accomplished everything Gabriel wanted to do from five seasons in one single episode. He stole every single miraculous, outsmarted ladybug and made her doubt abilities majorly, which led her to break down. Gabriel feels like a joke villain when compared to him

Chat blanc destroyed what was left of my sympathy for him, In the episode, he tossed his son flying across paris after knowing his identity and then akumatized him and breaking him mentally which caused him to snap and trigger the apocalypse murdering the entire population on earth, Just who the hell thought it was a good idea to give his son infinite destruction that is so dumb and he didn't even flinch or hesitate to violate his only son and push him to the breaking point, there are hundreds of ways to get the damn miraculous from his son but he chose the worst possible way to achieve it, The miraculous movie (spoilers alert) gabriel was portrayed as a concerned and anxious widower who wants to bring back his family the way it was before he snapped in the climax and almost killed adrien, but when he found out who he is he broke down in tears, terrified at the realisation that he almost ended what was remained of his family. It actually what caused him to quit his evil ways and cherish the memory of his late wife and what she would think of him if she was here, tv gabe is a psychopath while movie gabe is sympathetic

Gabriel completely lost sight of the whole reason he wanted the miraculous in the first place.

After he obtained all the miraculous he had the ability to go back in time. He had the opportunity to save his wife, but he had to be greedy and power hungry.

He gave up the chance to save his wife on a hunch.

As someone who watched the original french version of the show, just wanted to correct one tiny mistake: In the french version, Hawk Moth never really says he wants to "rule the world", just that the miraculouses would give the "absolute power", which is consistent with this motivation to bring back his wife (he wants to unleash the "absolute power" to make a wish and bring Emilie back). As such his motives remained ambiguous in season 1. The english translators ignored his motives back then so gave him a generic villain motive

I actually really liked the Gabe x Nathalie thing. I kinda expected them to go in the direction where Gabriel realizes his feelings for her, and gives up villainy. Finally moving on from Emelie, and Adrien ending up with a new Step mom.

It's wild how much better the movie does with making him sympathetic. In the show, he's pretty abusive and everyone chalks it up to him being overbearing/overprotective.

My God, they really fumbled the bag with this one. It's like the writers didn't know what type of villain they wanted Gabriel to be, the sympathetic one or the irredeemable one, so they just did both at the same time!

This is always the detail that Astruc frustrated me with. He himself said bad people cannot be redeemed that they are beyond help, but whines about Chloe only to still redeem Gabriel! Astruc really needs to let go of his stupid hate boner on Chloe.

They probably noticed, however, Thomas has an iron grip on the writing so strong the writers don't have the final say in the writing. So the bias/double standards with Chloe, Gabriel, and even Felix in the series are because of his own biases.

I know this video is about Gabriel, but honestly, Natalie's pity crush on Gabriel paradoxically makes a lot of sense and no sense at the same time, and it confuses me to no end.

It makes sense because Natalie is, in a way, the "loyal henchman" character. The character who is loyal to the main villain and thinks the villain is loyal in return when, in reality, the villain couldn't care less about them.
And I know this from the way Natalie will rarely tell Gabriel off for the way he treats his son, at least in season one. She just puts up with a lot of his nonsense and goes about her day like nothing is happening. Then, she puts her own health at risk for him.

But it also DOESN'T make sense when you take in the other half of Natalie's character. She's very prim and proper and orderly. She cares enough about Adrien to feel guilty when lying about the birthday present from Gabriel. She homeschools him even though that probably isn't in her job description as an assistant. And she comes across as a no-nonsense person who wouldn't just take Gabriel being a bad father with a straight face. Or like she wouldn't get in between Gabriel and his wife.

If anything, it would make more sense for Natalie to have been the one holding Gabriel back from doing too much damage in both sides of his life.
But the writers, like with most things, don't do that. They just have Natalie flip-flop back and forth between loving Gabriel, hating him, and being indifferent to him.

Which is it, writers? Is Natalie an assistant, a loyal henchman, a homewrecker or just there to be there?

Before I watch this video, I just wanna say.
Don't get me wrong, I love the villain concept they were going for Gabriel: Started out genuinely tragic & sympathetic and actually cared for his son's safety, but his obsession over power & defeating a bunch of teenagers overruled his original goal of saving his wife, that he's gone full-blown irredeemable terrorist willing to risk his son if it can give him a better chance at winning.
Unfortunately I think the writers fumbled up on that idea. Especially with what they did in the Season 5 Finale. What were they trying to redeem him at the last second, and now the public thinks he's a hero and Adrien never got his final confrontation with him.

14:44 THANK YOU! I never got why he was so fixated on recruiting Chloe. As much as I like her, Lila is a much sidekick. She is intelligent, manipulative, does most dirty work herself. While Chloe is just a spoiled bully who whines to get what she wants

The fact movie Gabriel is much better at balancing the whole “goofy Saturday morning cartoon villain vs. villain with a tragic motivation” among other things proves to me that the common denominator in all the problems with writing in this series are linked to Thomas Astruc.

I think the concept of Gabriel as the main villain would be something more or less similar to Harumi in Ninjago.

Everything he was doing was to bring Emily back to himself and Adrien, but he spent so much time trying to get the Miraculouses that he became obsessed, even forgetting why he was doing all this. The series even shows this in the first episode of season 5, but at the same time, there are many inconsistencies throughout the series to really support it.

The idea of him emotionally destroying Adrien could be well executed, because it would be a way of showing how he lost himself, but... the series exaggerated this too much and his redemption only seemed forced in the end.

Throughout the show Gabriel shows frantic inconsistencies with his personality, and this is a problem with the show overall, even simple powers like the "fetch" keeps changing, and i think i know why,
Thomas mentioned in an interview his method of writing is focusing on the moment, meaning that if he needs to add tension somehow he's just gonna do it regardless of future planing or pre-established facts , he referrs to ladybug describing the miraculous as indestructible as something he would change if he could, and we know how major of a plot point is the fragility of miraculouses
And seemingly this mindset is also why Gabriel is never the same in two episodes
He's humain now and  irredeemable tomorrow, blink and he might be dancing or something idk...
And we can see how this approach effected everything else in the show too,
Like butchering chloe after disagreeing with the writing team
And Lukas revelations being obsolete except in the single episode he had to wrap it up
... Lila's randomness

This sure as heck aged well

Honestly as a kid watching season 1 I didn't even know Gabriel's identity as Hawk Moth was a secret, that was just common knowledge to me.