Think I’m going to quit this hobby as setting a bike up sounds like an application at nasa

Where you sit depends on what music you play on your piano.

I want to visit Australia just to meet him

Great! Finally someone explaining how do you 'feel' when your fit is right - and when it is 'not right'. I find this approach the most helpful, much better than formulas.

Love that you inserted piano sound when he mentions "if you can play the piano" lol

At 10:50 how often is the road perfectly flat? He said: never. But I live in holland : the road is almost the whole time flat.😊

Neill is amazing. Sounds like your best friend explaining something to you.

Fascinating stuff. I like how Neil isn't dogmatic about how a bike should be fitted and speaks with lots of good caveats, due to our rather varied physiology and proportions.
Though I was puzzled by sorting seat out after everything else. To my mind saddle height and position should be set for comfortable pedalling. Only then bar height, tilt etc variations should be set after the saddle position is dialled in. If bars/hoods etc cannot be fitted correctly, then bike is wrong size to start with.
I always carefully test ride bikes before buying them and usually the ones I end up with, were comfy from start even without any tweaking, bar my pushing seat back from the usual too forward [for me] position.

I can listen to this guy talk about bikes and fit all day long. Love your series with him. He is so logical with all his fitting advice. Thanks for sharing his wisdom.

Hi, thank you for your videos. Thanks to you, I was able to adjust the saddle height correctly. I had a problem with my knees and the lower back, although I was doing the specialized bike fit before that. I reduced the height of the saddle and now I have no problems with my lower back and my knees.
After I lowered the saddle, I had problems with its forward/backward position. I had ligaments on the back of my knee. For myself, I found a method to find the right fore aft position, I set the saddle as far back as possible, put the bike by the wall and started pedaling in the reverse position. That's how I felt that my ligaments were stretched and strained. I moved the saddle rails 3-4 mm step by step forward until this feeling disappeared. And now I am happy :)

Not just fore/aft, but also saddle tilt had a big effect on comfort and power output for me. There seems to be a thousand ways to get it wrong, and just one way to get it right.

I’ve been a road cyclist for over 35 years and am still fiddling around with my position.

Great to see Neill here! I was fortunate enough to work with him on my bike fit a few years ago and he is an absolute legend. Best money I ever spent.

Neil actually knows what he's doing, kudos for not pushing KOPS. Why do so many other "professional" bike fitters keep using KOPS as a fitting metric? It was never supposed to be a fitting metric since your knee will wind up over the pedal spindle at some point in your stroke. KOPS is a bike sizing holdover from when road bike frames all had the same basic shape with a flat top tube and came in 1 or 2 cm size increments. It was always just a quick metric to check if you were on the right size frame within a size up, down, or middle of your range, not a setup/bike fitting metric. I'm starting to think that a lot of bike fitters out there are the chiropractors of cycling, every time I see one center a saddle position, and a crankset setup around KOPS.

私は日本人です。
今まで観たサドル位置の解説動画で1番参考になりました。
ありがとうございます！

this is gold content!!! cant believe is for free here on yt

Wow wow wow, I played around with this on my ride today and after the third adjustment I found the a sweet spot. It felt so good and I held my cadence in the 90’s while pushing a bigger gear.  Thanks so much.

Neil is absolutely brilliant with his analysis.  I'm learning quite a bit and will be getting a bike fitting soon.  Good stuff!

Brilliantly described!

Very practical, yet very scientific. I will apply what I've learned this weekend and throughout the week to find the best saddle position. Thank you.