It is difficult, especially since you HAVE to source your beef from a rancher now that you KNOW does grass-fed, organic, no mRNA shots to the cattle in order to not be literally poisoned by the beef.

In some Asian countries, senior women did not fall or have bone fractures, as often as western senoir women, almost 65--70% less occurrence, though they have much small bone structure and lower bone density.
The simple reason is that they eat a lot soy food, soy milk, dried tofu ( high calcium), beans, squash,  carrots, baby bok choy ( high calcium), nuts, animal bone soup(high calcium), ect. And most important, they do labor work on daily basis, use their hand carrying heavy stuff, use shoulders carrying goods.

Even they get osterosis at later age, which is a natural aging problem, not a diease, they still have strong bone strength.

If you do not worry osterosis so much, which will suppress your body's bone building funtion, you might be in a stronger position, the artificial supplements will not do a better job than the natural food, which might cause blood or kidney problems if overtake for more than 5- 10 years.
Be confident, relax, and do better job.
Besides, Dexa scan error is very common, if you have a REMS or QCT bone scan, you might be surprised to find how much the difference of the readings.

Compared with 100 plus 35 year old white people's bone density, which the dexa standard was based,  vast majority of people in the world will have very low readings, leading to overdiagonosis, especially the petite or slim group. So,  if you get low dexa readings, do not overreact,  do not jump to medications which might cause serious side effects.

This works well for me since I eat mostly animal products.

Wouldn’t a good digestive enzyme help counter the antinutients and improve protein absorption?

Thank you for this as I struggle with plant protein and eat mainly meat fish and whey protein

Thank you dr. Doug for another great video!

Hi Dr Doug, I listened to this video with interest.

I have a couple of points to suggest regarding phytate or phytic acid.
I understood for many years that this is an anti-nutrient, and there are ways to minimize it via prep or cooking methods.

However, I recently found articles that suggest it may not be as harmful as once thought.
There’s an article in the Feb 2022 Journal of Functional Nutrition, vol 89, titled Antinutrients, that you may want to read.
Similarly, in the journal Antioxidants, 2023, 12(1), a review article on Phytate Intake, Health and Disease, with some very interesting findings about the benefits of phytates.
It leads me to wonder if there is perhaps fair bit of nuance here, more than one might expect, on this topic of anti-nutrients…? 🤔

Very informative though some of the numbers are a little difficult to digest.  Because of the problems with estradiol and lupus intolerance, we are tending to follow the Marilyn case using plant base hormones including soy milk and isoflavones.  Protein is supplemented to achieve 1,6g/kg using "Mushashi high protein" It lists the proportion of amino acids but states it is multi source (93% whey milk product) but it does contain Soy lecithin.

What do you think about the hormones and antibiotics that can be in animal products, and the fact that an animal-based diet is inflammatory?

It’s not just the texture of red meat that puts me off..it’s the smell!

Does that mean that popular soy products such as tempeh or soy curls were not studied…also huge difference in the 2 tofu studies

Recent research from USC and from Harvard shows a reduction in longevity and an increase in certain diseases with too much meat protein and this relates to the melatonin in the meat. Have you looked at these studies by Valter Longo and others.

ok

You don’t include fish or chicken in your table..why not?

That's why I eat a combination of animal and plant protein but I really hate animal proteins,
If only animal proteins were so disgusting
I trie to hide meat in other foods so I don't have to taste it but unfortunately it's hard, it's not so much the taste it's the texture, animal proteins have the worst disgusting texture but the taste it's awful too
But I soak beans for days before I cook them, I soak grains too, but I also have to wonder about the mental connection to food, years ago when I ((forced)) myself to eat low carb diet which was very high in animal foods I was mentally miserable
And then I became physically miserable and sick, I know the body needs nutrition yes I know that but
If you're eating a diet you absolutely hate and it makes you miserable shouldn't that matter too??
There has to be a balance so that we can find a way to fit in the foods we enjoy without only having to eat the foods that are the most nutrient dense, and I'm not talking about junk foods processed foods fake foods food like products I'm not talking about none of that stuff it doesn't count,
Only healthy whole foods because a lot of carb haters out there think that you can be perfectly fine without eating carbs, OK if you don't want to eat carbs and don't eat carbs and stop telling those of us who do enjoy eating carbs what to eat
I know I have to feed my bones it's very important but I also have to feed the rest of my body too, it's just a matter of finding the right balance formula

Just an aside for your consideration.  A "Jill Ritchie Longevity" podcast basically rubbished much of what you discuss, giving it a "Fail"  I would welcome a challenge to much of what is asserted, including that K2 is of virtually no use - just a marketing claim.  On a positive note the speaker did support HRT, Vitamin C and D.

I'm not seeing studies with actual plants, in humans, prepared by soaking and long slow cooking as typically eaten by vegetarians. Nor are you citing studies involving vegetarians who have become accustomed to digesting beans. If vegetable sources were that weak, true symptoms of protein deficiency would be more common. Isolating anti-nutrient compounds and measuring them in various foods does not give reliable data about actual food. Adding an isolated compound to an animal diet does not reflect digestion of actual plants. We do have studies showing that vegan children do grow, and that vegan bodybuilders do put on muscle mass. You're giving a lot of theory here, no real world evidence.

Why are we acting as if the choice is between vegetables and red meat? What about other animal sources like fish, chicken, dairy, and eggs, deemed more heart healthy?

Bone health also has to do with your parathyroid.

Considering how many pesticides and how much diesel fuel is used to grow plant protein, i do not understand how plant based folks say this is good for the planet.