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Was Jesus Left Alone on the Cross? | Prof. Israel Knohl and Prof. Ishay Rosen Zvi

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Michelangelo's masterpiece, The Pieta, depicts Mary cradling the mortal body of Jesus after the Descent off the Cross.
This is the starting point for this fascinating talk in which Prof. Ishay Rosen Zvi of Tel Aviv University interviews Prof. Israel Knohl of the Hebrew University, around Prof Knohl's book The Messiah Confrontation: Pharisees versus Sadducees and the Death of Jesus.

Prof. Knohl describes an historical continuum of messianic expectations and tension building in the last centuries of the first millennium BCE in Judah and its surrounding based on deep examination of early sources such as The Dead Sea Scrolls and The Gospel of Mark.
Prof. Knohl also stresses the abandonment and loneliness of Jesus, contrary to the image portrayed in the Pieta, as central and essential to his messianic theology.
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The new book by Professor Israel Kanohal on the topic of this episode ((affiliated link)
The Messiah Confrontation: Pharisees versus Sadducees and the Death of Jesus
Hardcover
https://amzn.to/40x2TeX
Kindle
https://amzn.to/3Zu9UMd
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Books by professor Israel Knohl (affiliated links)
The Messiah Confrontation: Pharisees versus Sadducees and the Death of Jesus
Kindle
https://amzn.to/3vMDMHi
Paperback
https://amzn.to/3WStBwI
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The Messiah before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls
Kindle
https://amzn.to/3X9TLe0
Paperback
https://amzn.to/3GXuNtf
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==== Books by Ishay Rosen-Zvi (affiliated links)
Goy: Israel's Multiple Others and the Birth of the Gentile (Oxford Studies in the Abrahamic Religions)
https://amzn.to/3HQ8iaf
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Demonic Desires: "Yetzer Hara" and the Problem of Evil in Late Antiquity (Divinations: Rereading Late Ancient Religion)
https://amzn.to/3uZg9KS
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The Evil Inclination in Early Judaism and Christianity
https://amzn.to/3WxutGx

20 Comments

@KEDEMChannel Creator 3 years ago Pinned

The new book by Professor Israel Kanohal on the topic of this episode ((affiliated link)
The Messiah Confrontation: Pharisees versus Sadducees and the Death of Jesus
Hardcover
https://amzn.to/40x2TeX
Kindle
https://amzn.to/3Zu9UMd

@lauriyrjola3620 3 years ago

Another hour well spent. Thank you, friends.

@Namaerica 3 years ago

Your scholarship is so deep. Many thanks to both Professors and to Alex.

@adamchapman6530 3 years ago

That's a very nice conversation. Thanks to anybody involved!

@VSP4591 3 years ago

Very interesting and instructive discussions. Congratulations to the two professors.🏅

@VirtualAgape 3 years ago

Thank you for your response! Your channel is very informative. Keep up the good work! Shalom.

@avaloncarr5429 2 years ago

OMG, this channel has the most amazing content ever. I am totally gobsmacked by the quality of the speakers. I am going to buy the books of the professors for sure. Thank you so much

@ansgarm.cordie9659 3 years ago

A wonderful, enriching conversation. A new view on Jesus.

@KrochmalResnikoff-ou5qs 3 years ago

This was a wonderful discussion. I've learned so much from Israel Knohl and his books on this subject. He provides a perspective on early Judaism that answers many questions that previously had no logical answers. Other scholars in this field only have wild hypothesies that provide more contradictions & confusion. Thankyou for clearing things up Dr Israel Knohl.

@Pop-wn3il 3 years ago (edited)

This is magnificent! Thank you so much dear gentlemen for a joyful, enthusiastic, positive discussion. I am a Christian pastor and deeply appreciate your discussion. It is simply not possible for us to understand Jesus outside his Jewishness. Please do more together. I have just ordered 3 of Professor Knohl’s books.

@JERRYSHONDA 2 years ago

bravo kedem for your unique gifts in the kingdom of youtube

@CG0V 2 years ago

I found this an absolute joy to listen to

@a.t.6322 11 months ago

This is a master class on ancient Judaism

@adlioladliol8547 2 years ago

Jesus' saying "My God,my God why have you abandoned me..." has nothing to do with any type of despair on the part of Jesus, instead he is quoting Psalm 22. Read it and you'll understand. It's sad that so many do not understand this.

@michaelfalsia6062 2 years ago

Opinions are like noses. We all have one. We all speak and see things from a certain point of reference and authority. But this is the way we ought to approach all differences and points of view. Friendly dialogue and discussion like we see here is the way to go. No hate, no angst, just seeking to understand and allow the free expression of ideas. One need not surrender their morals and faith convictions and commitments in order to engage one another in open and free discourse. This is the beauty of academics done right.

@jan6337 9 months ago

Merveilleux ! Merci beaucoup

@darksaurian6410 3 years ago

I've been addicted to this stuff since I hurt my back and read Exodus thru Deuteronomy on my phone in bed and it was nothing like I thought it was. Now I'm reading Josephus and Herodotus and one of Finkelstein & Silberman's books. I'm probably going to watch every Kedem upload. Jacob Berman's history valley. History with Cy. Useful Charts. A year ago if you said "second temple" to I wouldn't even have known what you were talking about.

@Ellie-hx4lu 2 years ago

Can’t wait for the new program’s❤

@davidatrakchi2707 3 years ago

A very interesting discution

@DanielBrosnan-l1b 9 months ago

I love these erudite ,meandering ,interweaving discussions. As an Irish Catholic I find they illuminate my faith as much as they must enlighten Jewish believers. Thank you God bless.