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VG Myths - Can You Beat Sonic 1 & Knuckles Without Pressing Right Or Left?

Gamechamp3000

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Tonight on VG Myths, we try to beat another game without pressing right or left. Specifically the final game of the Genesis Sonic trilogy: Sonic the Hedgehog! As always, we'll be doing it in the only version where the run is feasible: the lock-on version featuring Knuckles the Echidna.

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No Way! No Way! No Way! No Way? & Knuckles
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Sonic Origins
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic 2 & Knuckles
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20 Comments

@Gamechamp3000 Creator 2 years ago Pinned

If you want to try the run yourself in the romhack, here's BahamutVoid's Retroachievements set!
https://retroachievements.org/game/29933

@meikaishi 2 years ago

The first 10 minutes felt like an April fool's video where the challenge never starts because we're still discussing what counts as an input

@orangeaurora 2 years ago

gamechamp spending 10 minutes on semantics just to fail the run 4 minutes later is a certified gamerchamp challenge moment

@noelle1940 2 years ago

who is "Devon Tended" and why does he have so many solutions

@VenturionSource 2 years ago

Can we get an episode that's just entirely explaining the semantics of a challenge but not actually doing a challenge? Just the set up please.

@XyrillPlays 2 years ago

I was so ready for her to just rotate the mousepad by 90 degrees, so that moving the cursor left or right would be accomplished through a forward-backward movement of the mouse.

@WeskAlber 2 years ago

I have already screamed "what are you doing woman?!" twice now.

I'm only at the character select menu so far.

@BillehBawb 2 years ago

watching you do these challenges is always such a treat because you never skip out with save states or technicalities like younger me did in my versions lol. only you would spend 10 minutes defining what an input is to avoid a left press before the game even has started, incredible. also you should totally do sonic mania at some point, my videos on it are pretty old (and a little cringe) at this point. the world deserves a newer version from your perspective

@Mr_Electric_13 2 years ago

You know it's going to be good when the challenge starts 15 minutes after the challenge starts.

@Cactusman129 2 years ago

I have no idea what Miss Gamer Champ actually looks like so I just envision her voice coming out of Tron Bonne

@FluffyPrincess888 1 year ago

30:19 "you'll end up with- AAAAAAAA- Five lives which is a really big number" best jumpscare ever

@MrFlame-zk5cy 2 years ago

Alright, well, it seems that knucles can only travel backwards in time... is there a sonic 0 for him to go back to, or is he just stuck here now?

@icey244 2 years ago

Alternate Title: Can you start up Sonic 1 and Knuckles without pressing left or right?

@SmoothTrooper22 2 years ago

I feel like the stupidly overly hyper specific semantics in these recent videos is a result of years of people commenting on her videos about stupidly overly hyper specific semantics that invalidate her challenge. So GameChamp’s now forced to go through every semantic imaginable so that her challenge is fully valid.

@cozykomala 2 years ago

I love how the first ten minutes of this video is just "TECHNICALLY-"

@RedFlashdrive 2 years ago

....GameChamp is the only person that can take nearly 10 minutes to start actually playing the challenge the video is about and still make those first 10 minutes enjoyable to watch. XD

@notdemomantf2294 2 years ago

Seeing runs like this makes me think back to how it is (technically) possible to beat Kirby's Adventure without owning a Kirby game.

In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, playing the game can allow you to unlock timed demos of older titles, showing the games some characters originate from.

One of these is Kirby's Adventure, which happens to have 3 glitches in the first stage: Eating two enemies at once lets you get the Stone ability, rolling at the correct spot lets you clip through the floor and be underwater without swimming, and using stone underwater causes a game crash you can forcefully halt by pressing Start at the right moment to pause the game, making the end credits of Kirby's Adventure roll without owning Kirby's Adventure. Done fast enough, you can beat the demo's time limit.

@Infinite90K 2 years ago

Gamechamp, spends nine and a half minutes explaining mechanical loopholes

@IrvinCascade 1 year ago (edited)

6:42 It's like Futurama and the Planet Express Ship. The mouse is operated via a Dark Matter Accelerator, and doesn't move right or left, it instead moves the computer, universe, and by effect the menus beneath it.

@joeytabora1052 2 years ago

Another bonus reason that clicking is allowed is that even if moving the mouse left and right is forbidden, (which you've established it's not), a computer with a touchscreen allows you to click without moving the mouse at all by just tapping the part of the screen that you want to click. This will make the cursor disappear, but moving the mouse again will prove that the cursor either stayed right where it was before, or teleported to the clicked location without actually moving right or left. Obviously that doesn't matter because as you proved, the game considers them different inputs, but I just find it fun that even applying the logic of a sentence in the english language in which moving the mouse is still moving, it's still possible to select Knuckles.