Risotto: I won't get any closer to you
Kakyoin: aight bet *20 meter emerald splash*
Risotto: what the fu-

You’re missing one thing. Star Platinum has camera lens eyes. Formagio ain’t going anywhere.

Magician red watching an angry italian trying to cover himself in ice: 😃

One thing I think the Crusaders have a weird edge in. They are stronger, as in they themselves are stronger. Think about it when Jotaro was aged down by Alessi he was able to beat the snot out of him unarmed, no stand, and at age seven. Joseph manages to get through all of part two without a stand at all. And Polnareff himself is an accomplished swordsman even without his stand. So, I would say at least Illuso is dead in the water because he would trap one of them in the mirror world, upon which they would realize "Hey I still have fists I could just beat the shit out of this jackass."

Avdol: Is a calm individual. Gets Fire stand.
Ghiaccio: Is a hothead individual. Gets Ice stand.

Araki? 🤔

Gratefull death + white album it's a crazy good combination they could use to destroy anyone

I don't care how strong La Squadra is, if Jotaro's theme starts playing it's over for all of them

There are a lot of cool interactions with this fight. Like how White Album could create a cloud of cold air to prevent La Squadra from aging by Grateful Dead, and how Risotto could pull weapons out of The Fool. I think the synergy of the crusaders, along with their longer range gives them the win more often than not. And if any of the crusaders die, Star Platinum would start blitzing and not wasting any time

I just imagine Illuso bringing Joseph into the mirror world going like,
Illsuo: Hah, I have isolated you from your stand!
Joseph: The next thing you're gonna say is, "What are you gonna do now old man?"
Illuso: What are you gonna do now old ma- What?! How did you-
Joseph punches Man in the Mirror with hamon.
Illuso: What was that?! I took your stand away from you, how did you hit Man in the Mirror?!
Joseph: This isn't a stand young man. It's something just as capable of taking you on.

The secret op stand here is actually man in the mirror in my opinion. People always forget that since MitM can take stands to the mirror world, he can take his teammates into the mirror world… and with their stands. The power difference between say jotaro and illuso is massive, but if the crusaders don’t have their stands, white album or Grateful Dead could just wipe the crusaders. The real question in my opinion is would illuso even think to use this strategy. We only see him in that one fight so I’m not sure, but it is the most free win condition on la squadra’s side.

Edit: Since iggys stand is a construct, he would still be able to use his stand in the mirror world. This means that the crusaders would still be able to fight back even if la squadra uses this strategy.

Too bad that Joseph never uses Hermit Purple with Hamon. Since its arguably the most powerful Hamon technique ever. As it solves Hamon's problem with range and would slaughter any vampire or pillar men not named Ultimate Kars.

If a crusader does fall i would probably imagine jotaro getting a serious rage amp which definitely wouldnt end well for la squadra i mean dio found that out the hard way.

plus with Jotaro, one difference between how he and dio use time stop is that rather than spamming it, Jotaro is noted to be more tactical and strategic with that ability since he can't spam it and use it as a crutch like dio did

Polnareff vs Nero is an utterly unfortunate matchup...

I wonder what would happen if La Squadra actually made their way to Diavolo? Would they even stand a chance?

I think it's crazy that you're counting the aging stand out because it would affect his team because like, he's the only one we actually see working with a teammate and he does not get affected just by chewing some ice. And they have a guy on they team that controls temperature...

I'm curious about another interaction between The Fool vs Man in the Mirror. Technically, wouldn't the sand Iggy controls appear in the mirror world, as the sand would just form up in the shape of the Fool? And Fugo was able to attack with Purple Haze while in the mirror world, albeit he didn't know where his stand was. So, if Iggy could see the mirror sand being moved around by the Fool, he'd be able to figure out how he needs to move it to attack Illuso and either kill him or force him to leave the mirror

i kinda like how this all boils down to:

these guys got hax, but THESE guys got hands.

imagine kakyoin meeting illuso:

kakyoin: so there is a world in the mirror.


polnareff: fucking finally!

The thing about Pesci is that the thing that made his stand terrifying was where he was and how the many walls would protect him and keep his location secret but once Bruno got outside for their standoff he dispatched of Pesci fairly easily considering all that had happened before hand so in the open space of the coliseum Pesci definitely would not have quite as much if an advantage as he did while in the narrow spaces of the train