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Guitar Amp Modelling vs Profiling - Which is Better?

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⏰ Timestamps ⏰
» 0:00 What's the Difference?
» 1:43 John's Opinion?
» 2:40 Comparing Deluxe 65s
» 5:11 Advancements in Modelling?
» 6:15 Comparing JCMs
» 7:44 How Neural Do Modelling?
» 9:25 Comparing JP2Cs
» 14:35 Comparing Peaveys
» 16:10 What have we Learned?
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20 Comments

@soogen 1 year ago (edited)

I think it's not which is better, it's more how well was it captured or how well was it modeled

@EddieVanAidan 1 year ago

The actual answer is it doesn't matter anymore because everything sounds great nowadays, and no audience member/listener cares what gear someone uses!

@radfury23g32 1 year ago

Obviously both can be incredible, but as a nerd, modelers rock. Especially when done well

@jesperjacobsen3050 1 year ago

Merry christmas to all of you guys.

@JohnVanCapel 1 year ago (edited)

The thing with a profile is, you're getting an amp on one specific setting and it might sound completely indistinguishable from the real amp on that setting - but the moment you try to tweak something, I find that they generally don't respond to EQ settings in the same way the amp does and it severely hampers the realism. Like, even the "good" simulations of the amp's EQ and volume-control are only working off of where you had the EQ and volume set at the time.

With a model, generally it's more encompassing and less "one setting forever", but at the expense of basically being at the mercy of the manufacturer for the quality of the model. Some are scarily good, some are a bit less accurate or more oldie-fashioned-digital sounding. YMMV depending on the modeler you have.

And of course, some amps simply aren't available as a model, so a profile/capture is the only way to replicate them. For example, you can capture the sound of an amp with a distortion pedal in front of it as one "unit", or with a studio EQ over the top, or capture a modded/one-off amp you happen to have access to that the manufacturer didn't.

@rmp5s 1 year ago

I like "models" as you can have "perfect" or "ideal" models like Fractal does with their "FAS" models.

@ovivan79 1 year ago

The beautiful thing about captures is that it gives exposure to so many more sounds. Models are amazing but nit everything gets modelled. It’s so much fun to discover some gear in a video and most likely someone captured to download and play around with.

@RogerBergqvist 1 year ago

Marry Christmas to all of you at Andertones.

@Nig6tWalker 1 year ago

i like both modelling and profiling

@THINJIMI 1 month ago

Wherever you can find your sound! That’s what’s best for you!

@david_farmer 1 year ago

You've already basically said it, but I also think of it like in modeling, each knob has the full range of 1-10. And profiling/capturing, etc., each knob effectively might have a range of 4-6, and everything changed is post-processing a single pre-determined sound. I originally thought that when profiling/capturing, the full dynamic response would be captured and editable, but it really seems like those aren't tweakable very far from the original. At least that how it seems here.

@michaelschneider7590 1 year ago

Would be great if PRS offered an SE edition of that Studio!

@fadeproofmakug2 1 year ago

DIGITAL JOHN

@christianpacode 1 year ago

Would have loved to hear them in very clean tones; it's much easier to perceive the difference in clean tones in my opinion

@WamiJam 1 year ago

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@mikegoodwin1498 1 year ago

I hate to admit that profiling sounds more accurate, but it does. But in this is a big butt, they only profiles that I get that sound professional quality ones I have to buy I can’t get them sounding that good myself.

@jimamsden 1 year ago

In Quad Cortex, the models are captures that also include knob positions in the input training set. So a capture of an amp and the model of the amp with the controls set at the same point of the capture are likely to be pretty similar. There are of course differences in how they were captured.

@heymrguitarman7637 1 year ago

I prefer modelling for the most part.

@irishRocker1 1 year ago

You can always identify the model by the low end. And I'm not necessarily sure the real amp has that. Models seem to exaggerate that a lot. Sometimes it sounds like there's a subwoofer lol