as far as dungeon maps, why not have some bosses drop a map when it would make sense (a humanoid like van cleef or whatever) or a chest or an engraving along the way that your character sketches. so we dont have it our inintially on our 1st run (or subsequent if its a harder one to find). but u can earn it.

they mentioned about adding surprise encounters or whatever to some dungeons, maybe the map could hint at those locations. for eg an "X marks the spot" situation, or a riddle to solve a puzzle, leading to loot, or a boss, an escort quest for gear etc

If we're only supposed to run them once, may as well make the dungeon a memorable event.

The skyborne exposed how out of touch they were. Apparently we wouldn't have even gotten SD character model toggles and classic running animations if the streamers who got flown out to Blizzard studios back in May hadn't given their input and heavily pushed for it. I have hope only because they are making fixes rather quickly, but some of these issues were artificially created by bad decisions and shouldn't have been an issue in the first place. The blueprint is there and all they had to do was steal the ideas of the private servers who stole from them. There's no reason they should be struggling this much with class balancing right now when turtle wow talent trees are publicly available to copy/paste.

The background ambient sounds are sending me on an intergalactic voyage

Make dungeon maps an item that can drop at the end of a dungeon, or is somehow acquired through quest chains before/after completing a dungeon.

It’s SoD Phase 2, and it will last just as long as SoD. They only made changes to sweeten the deal for retailers, alienating the very people who would have played for ten years. Retailers will never tolerate horizontal progression and will jump ship in six months—a year at most. Classes are unrecognizable: Hunter auto-shot clipping, seal twisting, Reckoning, downranking, etc. It’s a total failure; it won’t survive the typical lifespan of a progression server—maybe even less.

The worst part is the fact that they are giving to much importance to what streamers say (aka the cancer of gaming)

And not only that, they’re selling you new dungeons that are just copied zones with generic doodads. I mean, the only one with a somewhat acceptable and new design is the Ironforge dungeon; the rest of the new dungeons are copy-pasted outdoor zones decorated with generic WoW assets. They aren't introducing Shadowfang Keep or BRD-style dungeons with completely new, custom layouts.

I fear for iconic places like Grim Batol, the Emerald Dream, or others, which might end up being wasted in one of the best opportunities we've ever had to finally see what's actually behind those doors—just like what happened with Gilneas or Gillijim's Isle and Dr. Lapidis' Island, which got replaced by the new troll dungeon.

I’ve never played on a custom server, it feels like cheating on your girlfriend, so to speak. But I have eyes, I know WoW beyond just the surface, and I've seen what those guys did with the Turtle WoW server, and current Blizzard is just not capable of that. The people they have working there aren't really content creators, per se; they're caretakers of the franchise, but they aren't capable of actual creation, which are two very different things. To be fair, the fault doesn't really lie with them, quote-unquote (I mean the ones working on the project day-to-day).

The problem is higher up. Management puts restrictions on them or whatever, always operating with a "less is more" mentality (as long as they pay for it, that's good enough). What I mean is that through all their infinite versions of the game over the years, we've seen hundreds of model files, maps, and content that they scrapped for whatever reason. Why the hell don't they pull from that? In my quest to see this kind of stuff, I went around archiving different patches and files. In them, you can find all kinds of early versions: Classic human-style Dalaran, old Ironforge, Orgrimmar, things like that—many of which we've all seen on YouTube or elsewhere. If those versions reached us, what the hell must they have sitting around since 2005...? Only for them to turn around and copy-paste an open-world area just to call it a dungeon.

And this is going unnoticed by some complacent players.

PS: I don't mean to say that the new dungeons we've seen are aesthetically ugly or poorly executed, just that they're taking the easy way out: copy and paste.

BGM reminds me of Acheron’s call 2

dragonmaw retreat brings a tear to the eye. so big and sprawling, with so many possible routes. they really understood.

the devs didn't design wow forever for the community, they designed it the way they think it should be.

On class changes: they have done the absolute bare minimum and the beta patch notes are so inconsequential every week it honestly doesnt give me any confidence in their capability to get it right in a reasonable amount of time (ie. before the game loses too many players)

This company gonna ruin everything. They dont know how to make games, they ask their playerbase for the most important game design decisions and try to please everyone. You think they can "upgrade" vanila world of warcraft right? please xd

They’re not playing the game. I said it the moment I heard all their scripted speeches from the blizzcon panels. That’s why many of these decisions make 0 sense. Also listen to the weekly podcast, same thing over there.

I don't like the legacy talents either, but you can't get enough for the health regen and early talents until you max level a main and a profession

you havent even said a single word about the by far BIGGEST issue which is layering/sharding, they advertise the game with the open world being the main focus but every zone is like an instance, personally the immersion factor is a non issue for me but the way it currently works completely kills world pvp

The ideal of innovating Classic is very odd to me. It’s almost Amish in nature, they want everything retail and what they’ve improved greatly over the years but they can’t swallow their pride and download the better mmo.

WoW, in any era, was never designed to support a horizontal content structure.

It’s not exactly what i wanted, but that’s life. I played the beta a little and enjoyed it. It’s not perfect but better than i originally expected

So they have wanted to do vanilla + ever since classic. However, they had no idea how to make it. So they saw turtlewow and epoch succeeding extremely. So they sued them and got them shut down, but also got control of their server files. So they copy-pasted turtle and epoch. However, they HAD to add some of their own. And very much of their own changes are bad.

It's already getting way too much like Retail-SHIT. I have no hopes for this.

Introducing Shamans for Alliance and introducing Sky Elves was a big mistake. First of all, there should be some classes that are faction locked, otherwise replicability will be low. Sky Elves are basically blood elves, same character models, very lazy implementation.