Konami needs to give some of these older decks more clear win conditions and pay offs... Charmers did get HUGE support but like Jessie said here, there's no real pay off for it so they have to go into K9 or something else... The same goes with Harpies - Cyber Slash Harpie Lady is their boss monster with a 2600 ATK. Most decks would consider her a mini-boss, like Swordsoul having their mini-boss having 2800 ATK. The pay off is just not there!

I've tried putting together a Charmer Fiendsmith deck, because the original Charmers are lvl 3 for Melomelody, and the Charmer fusion is a lvl 6 for Ptolemy so you can keep Necroquip on field to draw off from an added back Engraver.

How rogue deck can beat meta by hoping your opponent has no idea what your deck does so they will misplay

This is kinda what i did with mikanko during snake eye format
Snake eye ash ended on huli with equip and spiritwalk, flamberge, double arc light, promethean in grave, amblowhale, all because jet synchron is a level 1 fire tuner that can summon itself back, you had all the strengths of both mikanko which is always wrote off as a blind second slop strategy where you can replace all the mikankos with tenpai cards and have a better deck but in the past huli was very hard for decks to remove so passing on huli did work for a while, as well as the strengths of snake eyes(tons of extenders) and i did a similar thing with fiendsmith(tour guide summon sangan make moon add revolution synchron from sangan which can then be used to make power tool braver dragon, or the good version which was just using diviner to make braver then going into fiendsmith)

And now the new cards completely ignore the going first strategy the first waves were doing(three traps and a way to search them) while also being awful cards(why does sanaki not have at bare minimum the illusion effect, why does uzuhime not add mikanko cards and is locked to mikanko, why is shinbu not each effect once per turn)
Yes ive been mad abt the cards for the past year and no that anger isnt going to stop

Remember when a player poll decided the new Shaddoll support, and Dinomist came in 2nd… Pepperidge farms remembers

I'm gonna play charmers as a spellcaster salad, use the effect of Lyna and Dhak for search the magistus monsters

That smile when you said  "Bear Necessities" you were thinking about Winnie the Pooh my good man

Today at locals Spellbook of the Grand Circle soul charged out two K9 rank 5 monsters

It's funny too. Back before Halqifibrax was banned, Link Fish was a sleeper deck that nobody ever played but was totally possible. I'm talking two card combo that was consistently easy to do with lifeless leaffish and any other level 4 water monster. I didn't have the money to buy the deck at the time, but essentially it abused coelacanth twice (since he isn't hard once per turn, and White Aura Monoceros can bring him back mid combo to do his effect again) to basically spray out links and synchros to end on a crazy board with dragite, appolousa, borreload savage with 3 negates, and crystal wing synchro dragon.

With a simple red eyes fusion in hand, you could also end up with a dragoon on board with all of those as well. It was great going first...but definitely not great going second. But if you did manage to go second, you could just summon white aura whale,  clear board, summon accesscode pop back row, and then swing for game. Basically if your opponent cant stop you turn 1 or 2, you just win, which does mirror the general necessity of the meta. The biggest issue is playing through disruptions.

The cool thing about charmers atm is that they have potential. The Archtype might suck but you can build it the way you want to express yourself. Which is so cool!

Shout out to the kiratwig mat he was always such a good dude he's the reason I got to play kozmo during bosh format

I use NATURIA spright. My finishing field is elf+pink and orange guy+ NATURIA antjaw. And then I win, it's really nice

I shall keep coming back to this video when im stuck trying to make scareclaw great, currently I’m at scareclaw mixed with fiendsmith and bystials and some nemesis card to keep gas up. I do use fenrir and unicorn for searches into scareclaw and incase dracotail bounces them so I can keep going

Clear new world is dope in manadium yang zing. I wish that deck was more consistent. Being able to use deng long twice on a turn is dope

You said about Spellcasters extenders, but Sinful Spoils of White Forest can easily summon Quintet Magician after Charmers fusion summons a lot of Spellcasters to field deleting the entire field plus if you had Dark Ruler no More triggered before all that you could board wipe very quickly.Then if you know how to use generic spellcaster supports and compatible ligh weight engine spellcasters as White Forest itself (Synchro may get a little compromised there) it could be quite a fun deck to explore.

I've literally made a 48 card spellbook deck featuring the new cards. I can see that maybe for now I can take out the Spirit Charmer card (until next core set) and try it out with Spenta. 😊

Im currently experimenting a bit with crusadia fiendsmith otk where fiendsmith provides as a way to get a crusadia on the field from the hand without spending the normal summon while keeping the emz free, currently trying to figure out a way to tie them better together and also potentially adding kaijus to the brew

Personally i'm experimenting with a charmers package in Fire King Tri-Brigade. Its a larger 55 card brew for an alt format i'm working on, but i can probably crunch it down to 50 for the advanced format.

My most fun games where with V-World against the fire meta. Everything gets banished and they have to think about how they can out Kyubi without loosing too many peaces.

For the record, I remember salad was considered rogue at first, next thing you know, we had toss format lol.