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Himalayan 411 vs 450: Second Hand vs New Dilemma

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The Himalayan 411 vs 450 Dilemma. Are you facing the ultimate Royal Enfield dilemma: Should you buy a second hand Himalayan 411 or drop the cash on a brand new Himalayan 450? In this video, we cut through the showroom hype to give you the absolute truth behind the used vs new debate. While the new liquid-cooled, 40-horsepower Sherpa engine on the 450 looks dominant on a spec sheet, pushing the discontinued, air-cooled 411 tractor through a gruelling 10-day tour in the high altitudes of Bhutan revealed a completely different story.

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⏱️ Video Timestamps:
0:00 - Used Himalayan 411 vs New 450 Dilemma
0:50 - Engine Comparison: Tractor vs Rocket
1:30 - Simplicity vs Modern Tech in Remote Areas
2:15 - Real-World Bhutan Testing (4,000m Altitude)
3:00 - Handling, Seat Height & Weight Distribution
4:38 - The Second Hand Market Math (UK & Global Prices)
5:00 - The Truth - Which bike will suit you - 411 or 450
7:15 - Final Verdict: Would I Buy a Used 411?

About This Video:
After riding a 411 with 24,000 km on the clock through severe potholes, deep mud, and mountain passes up to 3,700 meters above sea level, I analyse whether it’s still worth buying a second-hand Himalayan 411 today. We break down the real-world performance gap: how the 411 struggles on high-speed highways against bikes like the Honda NX500, but completely dominates when the roads disappear and the terrain gets slippery.

With used prices in England sitting between £1,800 and £2,600, a second hand 411 lets you save thousands of dollars/pounds that you can use to fund actual adventure travel.

If your adventure is about exploring back roads, slow-paced touring, and having a rugged, mechanically basic companion you can fix with a hammer and pliers—it might be time to embrace the chug.

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Would you take the old, un-burstable tractor or the new high-revving rocket? Let me know your thoughts in the comments below!

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20 Comments

@Ride-with-T Creator 4 months ago (edited) Pinned

The big question: Would you take the old 411 tractor or the new 450 rocket? Let me know your choice below! 👇
Also, in this review I talked about pushing the 411 to its absolute limits, scraping my foot on the mountain corners, and navigating the brutal mud passes of Bhutan. If you want to see exactly how that chaos went down, check out Episode 3 of the travel series on my new channel!
🏍️ Watch the 411 get pushed to the limit in Episode 3 here: https://youtu.be/ngxq9uPvWQk?si=zVKbfybhjWT7Le8b
Drop a comment on that video letting me know you came from this review!

@Tom-bm7mm 4 months ago

I'd definitely take the old tractor. I don't need all the gadgets. Liquid cooled is one more thing that can go wrong. And I like cameras that use real film (unrelated I know, but I'm an old bastard)

@gregdroid1969 4 months ago

I have a 2023 Scram 411. Picked up with 500 miles on it for about $3000. Absolutely love it. Its a workhorse. I have put 5000 miles on it, trouble free.

@peternoble4172 4 months ago

Tractor. I really fancy one of the 411's.

@andromeda808-j7b 4 months ago

The 450 is a capable tool, my 411 is my companion!

@marcbastien6054 4 months ago

My wife and I each have a 2023 himalayan 411 . I'm 70 and she's 62, we love them. Only sometimes wish for that 6th gear. But al and all , just perfect for us.

@alragev 4 months ago

I got my 411 BS6 2022 second hand back in 2023 with just 1000km, not selling it ever.

A simple, cool looking, easy to maintain machine that's gets you where you need to go, without the need to worry for the amount of sensors or technology.

Simplicity is much better.

@edwardkaminsky8142 4 months ago

2022 Himalayan 411cc 23,800 miles in 39 months. No problems. I run around Las Vegas like nobody's buisness. Highways or Mount Charleston ( 11,000 feet) 😮 80 miles from the strip. Red Rock Canyon outlook and conservation area daily. It is tough being retired.

( Gorgeous riding area)

@hari130481 4 months ago

I would prefer the old tractor for sure. I know how reliable 411 is. I rode it for thousands of kms over some of the highest passes in Ladakh.

@ashdivakaran9664 18 hours ago

There is a new 440 with a 6 speed transmission. It’s still not amazing at 100kph but it’s perfect for the mountains.

@TSLancer 4 months ago

Great video. I’ve been running a 411 Himy for 3 years, and recently had an opportunity to purchase a bargain priced 450 version. But with 3 bikes already in the garage, I had to pass on the offer. Having ridden both, I still think the 411 pips the 450 for relaxed adventure riding. It also has bags more character and is cheap n easy to maintain.

@Änt_tr 4 months ago

I got mine 411 back in 2023 and I absolutely love it, 15000 miles on it, perfect for exploring.

@Makermook 4 months ago

I have a 411 as well as a KLR 650. Riding the Himalayan is more fun and it feels more sturdy in rougher stuff.

@cristescuionian 4 months ago

I am an owner of a Scram 411 and although the Himalayan 450 is newer and better equiped, I prefer the simpler older Scram 411 witch is basicly a 90% Himalayan 411.

@marcusoutdoors4999 4 months ago

Great video… a real adventure demands a two wheeled Jeep and the modern bike is just too complicated

@Oggiwara1 4 months ago

Nothing wrong with the 450. But the old tractor is a no-frills, unstoppable little touring bike. So I would most likely choose the 411.

@felixVanDiemen 4 months ago

Good on you T, you sure do get around. For me it would be the 411 every time. And watching your video made that very clear to me, thanks mate!

@mokpot 4 months ago

Interesting timing for your video and the question you asked. Six days ago I bought the Himalayan 450, I am very impressed with it so far. I am enjoying your adventure.

@greenfuelbooster 4 months ago

i have a RE 411

@billgrigg2 1 month ago (edited)

I bought a brand new Himalayan back in 2022, specifically because I'd decided to go on a trip to Iceland. I'd only recently returned to motorbikes after a gap of about 40 years - on the 1975 Trident that I'd last ridden in 1982 and finally put back together during covid lockdowns.

It did everything that I needed on the gravel roads of Iceland. I've since ridden it through the mountains of eastern Europe to Greece, and down to Morocco and over the Atlas Mountains to the edge of the Sahara.

I should admit that I've avoided the more extreme roads, but that's because I'm 73 this week and travel alone rather than doubts about its abilities.

Yes, it is slow and underpowered for motorway cruising but I usually avoid them and it copes if it has to.

I did excitedly follow the launch of the 450 and had assumed that I'd trade up. But the more I thought about it the more I realised that the 411 actually does what I need and I love its simplicity. It's now on 28k miles and I planning more adventures.