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Man City's 115 charges: what punishment could they face?

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Back in 2018, leaked documents of email’s between executives at Manchester City shocked the very foundation of the Premier League, instigating the start of the infamous 115 charges towards Pep Guardiola’s team.

Fast-forward 6 years and the hearing has finally begun behind closed doors. But can City’s team of top lawyers navigate a way out of this? Or could the former treble winners be looking down the barrel of one of the largest points deduction’s in Premier league history?

Ayo is joined by Phil Hay and Senior Writer Mat Slater to discuss this saga.

00:00:00 Intro
00:00:25 Recap
00:04:48 Man City’s legal team
00:09:45 A breakdown of the charges
00:17:05 The privacy of the hearing
00:20:57 Man City vs The PL
00:26:14 Historic relevance of the charges
00:29:30 Sam Lee on the effects on the club
00:31:51 What happens if City lose?
00:36:19 What happens if City win?
00:38:35 Final comments

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20 Comments

@zebmars8944 2 years ago

Army of lawyers will make this a never ending story but you have to be pretty naive to think they are innocent.

@MrTimothydclark 2 years ago

Sorry, I thought Guardiola was on record as saying that if the city hierarchy has lied to him then he’ll leave?

@gwheregwhizz 2 years ago

City are paying Lord Pannick KC, £10,000 an hour for their defence and their total costs will be astronomical. If they lose, an appeal will be guaranteed. If that doesn't go in their favour, it will likely reach the civil courts. It will be the 26-27 or 27-28 season at least before this is sorted.

@hkp93 2 years ago

It needs to be a penalty per season that they were found to be guilty. Honestly, multiple relegations should be on the table

@luvhenry 2 years ago (edited)

This is Enron and Arthur Anderson in the early 2000's. Enron and Arthur Anderson were the biggest company and the biggest auditor respectively. It took a year or so - and then neither of those Companies exist. Its the same thing - devious related party transactions, inflating sponsorships by roundtripping transactions. The delays here are not on their fault - but if they are found guilty, because its fraud, there will be sanctions against their executives, and could potentially be criminal. Thats why this is all happening slowly. Also with the lawyer costs - thats actually why City can't spend money on replacing Alvarez.

@chillinlee 2 years ago

Did you just make a 40 minute video about Man City and potential negative consequences of all the violations they have committed? Why? We all know that they will get a scolding and a slap on the wrist.

@asabristol 2 years ago

I have seen enough. 30 point deduction for Everton.

@Jonathan-yd8ud 2 years ago

All their titles need to be removed if guilty. Imagine cycling leaving Lance Armstrong with his Tour De France winners medals.

@gap4998 2 years ago

Does anyone believe there will be a meaningful punishment if found guilty. It will end up being no pudding for a week which will be reduced to 3 days on appeal.

@Berssange55 2 years ago (edited)

This country and league are a joke if they lose this.

@rel362-o3x 6 days ago

Wenger warned off financial doping in the premier league. He was mocked, ridiculed and lambasted.

Turns out he was right…. But no one will acknowledge his warnings

@CNS1908 2 years ago

Nice podcast, however, Matt Slater got it significantly wrong about Juventus. The majority of their stats left, Vieira, Zambrotta, Thuram, Ibrahimovic etc + Inter won the Serie A for numerous seasons after that, it wasn’t a one season turn around.

@MrLunchman 2 years ago

Thank goodness Sam Lee wasn’t live recorded on this pod
He is so defensive about the 115 charges in previous episodes, doesn’t let other correspondents even finish their sentences

@aakarmamtora3470 2 years ago

Ideally a combination of relegation, point deductions, fines and stripping of titles. Or at least a few of the above punishments. But Realistically it won't be that

@jamesandrade1668 12 hours ago

They have been proved GUILTY on 114 out of 115 charges.

@thorvaldsson1 2 years ago

These types of Episodes are really intresting and entertaining.
Good Job The Athletic 👍

@DenDave_ 6 days ago

The algorhythm has brought us back here, hello there ☕

@flickrchannyuk4396 6 days ago

If found guilty, justice is needed for those who have been denied, re-allocation of prizes should be pursued and not avoided just because it is difficult.

@simondavies419 2 years ago

If found guilty the owners shouldn’t be allowed to own the club anymore, but shouldn’t be allowed to sell the club and make any financial gains. That’s the very least punishment they deserve. Any fine/points deduction/relegation is so hard to judge due to the magnitude. Trying to remain pessimistic though. I’m sure I read somewhere that City wouldn’t be allowed to appeal? Maybe I’m wrong there.

@Chinawhite84 2 years ago

Imagine the very league that you play football in is suing you for 115 charges. City need to be made an example of or football is gone. It’s that simple