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Regardless of the first redditors family being Mr. Cruel or not, poor woman. What a horrifying start to life. No wonder she would even consider the Mr. Cruel stuff. She had her own personal Mr. Cruels growing up. All I can hope is that she is doing better these days.

My boyfriend was bit by a woman's aggressive off-leash dog years ago. The doctor said they could treat for rabies immediately, or wait for the dog's test results to come back. He opted to get the shots immediately, which I am grateful for, since less than a week after the bite the dog had died. Of rabies.

Don't mess around. Get the treatment. You won't live long enough to regret it if you don't.

I’ve heard my own  Mr. Cruel rumor myself. My family emigrated to the US from Victoria when I was a child. When I was a teenager, I read about Mr. Cruel and being a true crime freak, I dug into it a lot. One day I mentioned it to my mother and she just casually said “oh yeah, he’s dead”.

I had to inquire some more and she told me the story as she knew it. While we were living in Victoria, my mother dated an Inspector from VicPol. According to him, not too long after the last Mr. Cruel attack, the police got dispatched to a fatal motor vehicle crash. The driver was killed on impact but matched the general physical description of Mr. Cruel. Inside the car they found several items (she believes a mask and some other clothing were part of it) that gave them sufficient cause to believe the driver was, in fact, Mr. Cruel. Supposedly his house lined up with what they knew of Mr. Cruel’s residence as well (in an airport flight path, etc).

The police never publicly announced this because they didn’t have enough proof that they were willing to name someone specifically, and they didn’t want to close the case without a conviction just in case they were wrong. The attacks stopped after the crash.

Of course, I have no way of knowing if this is true at all. My mother could have misremembered or her partner could have made it up to either tell an interesting story or to allay some of her fears as a young mother living alone in Melbourne. There’s no way to know now either.

That last story is terrifying, but it’s also important to know that at least in the US the annual infection rate of rabies for humans is incredibly low, around 1 to 3 a year

I know the chances of the first redditor actually being related to mr. Cruel are slim, but i think people make her out to be some attention-seeking liar when, as a CSA victim myself, i would also be very nervous and obsessive over any coincidences if i thought my abuser was hurting other people. Knowing someone like that just makes you very paranoid and sometimes eager to jump to conclusions if it means your abuser might be able to finally face a consequence.

Jeana was the first person to be saved using the miluakee protocol, but not the only one. She's just the only one to make a full recovery. there are four others that have survived with this method, but all had lasting brain damage.

No matter how many times I encounter that Mr. Cruel sketch, it still scares me.

“Don’t shit where you eat”, is neither specifically Australian nor related to crimes. It means, “Don’t mix business & pleasure.”

"once you feel a headache or a slight backache, you're already dead"
Me, a dev : 💀

I want to note that when you have been abused by someone and you don’t know what their fate is, you are always wondering if they are doing the same thing to someone else, or if they have escalated to something more. I don’t think she’s making it up, I think she’s horrified at the thought that someone who abused her could’ve potentially moved on to someone else. Whether she really was or wasn’t raised by him, I couldn’t tell you. But I don’t think she is being malicious or attention seeking.

Thoughts regarding the Mr. Cruel post on Reddit:

There are several things that is known about Mr.Cruel that doesn’t fit the poster’s description of her childhood abusers.
Even though Mr. Cruel’s sexual assaults were despicable beyond words, his manner wasn’t. He was in fact described by the victims as soft spoken and, in contrast to what most people believe due to his moniker, seemed to care about the victims. One victim described him as “gentle”. He gave another victim a sandwich, milk and lemonade. To remove forensic evidence he bathed his victims carefully, with one victim describing the act as "like a mother washing a baby". According to the victims he lived in a fantasy that he was “married” to each girl.
The fact that he didn’t kill the first three victims, but dropped them off and told them to call home, is not compatible with complete lack of empathy or a pronounced sadistic nature.
Moreover, he didn’t physically hurt any of the victim’s siblings when incapacitating them, nor their parents that I’m aware of, even though he caused severe psychological trauma to both the victims, their families and in a wider perspective to the community as a whole.

A very common, and perhaps understandable, misconception is that all pedophiles are sadistic psychopaths who lack empathy and remorse, but that not the case. At least two studies have shown that violent sexual behavior and sadism against children are more common among perpetrators (by far mostly men) who normally don’t identify themselves as pedophiles or show specific sexual interest towards children. Their goal is power and complete control over vulnerable victims. Any vulnerable victim. The same men usually physically and emotionally abuse adult women (or men) too. Pedophiles on the other hand more commonly delude themself that what they’re doing is “love” and have therefore no interest in hurting children as that contradicts their fantasy of “love”. I believe Mr. Cruel belonged in the latter category. That said, there are of course exceptions and quite a few  known examples of sadistic pedophiles too.

That Mr. Cruel was aware of how police collect forensic evidence, to such a degree that he bathed his victims, clipped their fingernails and toenails, brushed and flossed their teeth etc, does not necessarily mean that he was a “neat freak”. It rather indicates that he may have had a background in law enforcement, or at the very least had made considerable research in that field. However, I sincerely doubt his knowledge of police work was limited to forensics alone.

What also may speak against the Reddit poster’s suspicion is that Mr. Cruel spent a great deal of time staking out the families and planning the abductions. It took up a lot of his time. For example, Mr. Cruel already knew the name of at least one victim when he abducted her and he knew that the children would be home alone in at least two of the cases. He also knew what they didn’t have, for instance security systems or dogs that could warn the families or attack him. It’s been rightfully speculated that Mr. Cruel may have been an employee of the local school system since all four of the assaults and abductions happened during school breaks.
Someone new to the community would probably not have access to that kind of information and stick out if he tried to get it. My guess is that Mr. Cruel somewhat knew his victims, although from a safe distance. As in the quote by Marcus Aurelius “We begin by coveting what we see every day.”

That the poster’s stepfather closely followed the reports about Mr. Cruel does not necessarily mean he actually was Mr. Cruel. Men who sexually abuse children are well known to be drawn to other men with the same interest, and often keep track of other sexual predators in media. There’s also the possibility that her stepfather followed the news because he was afraid that his own abuse could draw the police’s attention to him. When one child predator is being hunted by a task force, chances are that many other predators get caught in the same net - which indeed was the case in the Mr. Cruel investigation too.

Though there are many known serial killers who sadly have targeted children, it does not in any way define serial killers in general. The stepfather’s interest was possibly more of a gory sadistic nature, especially given the specific names the Reddit poster mentioned and the stepfather’s own alleged inclinations.
But it’s only fair to point out that a huge amount of people all over the world are fascinated by serial killers and true crime in general (we’re watching this video for example), without being violent, committing crimes or being a danger to society.

Why did he stop?
I personally speculate that when Mr. Cruel killed Karmain Chan his delusion of being “married” to the children shattered completely and destroyed his fantasy beyond repair. I think it’s very possible that Chan managed to free herself from the blindfold at some point and saw him, therefore he had to kill her. He is known to have said “My freedom is worth more than your life". There’s also a possibility that she recognized him, thus positively could identify him.

Regardless, it’s possible that Mr. Cruel simply couldn’t cope with the murder afterwards. In fact most people who commit murder can’t.
Murder wasn’t part of his fantasy. In his mind he “loved” the girls and was supposed to release them and continue the fantasy. I think it’s quite possible that the act of murder shocked him and ultimately consumed him. In his twisted mind he justified rape as “love” and threats as a mean to go through with it. But there’s a huge difference between verbally threatening someone and actually murdering a child.

Mr. Cruel is a case that I first read about in the early 90’s and over the years I’ve tried to research it further but the information has been very sparse. It wasn’t until 2016 the police released a little more information about the case and revealed the seven suspects that they hadn’t been able to rule out.

I would love to see a longer video about this case Cadaber.

The Mr cruel case, i feel so bad for the girl, the guilt she must feel after realizing the victims all resembled her is unimaginable, my heart goes out to her and hopefully one day they face justice even if they're not mr cruel they belong behind bars

I just got my rabies shots. I was attacked by a random dog that had run off, never to be found. Rabies is a huge phobia of mine, so every headache or bit of dizziness that came over me terrified me. It has been a few days, and I'm feeling better, but feeling like I might have rabies is pure dread.

FYI...donated organs are not tested for rabies. And yes, it has spread through organ donation in the USA. When I was bitten by a strange dog, had to get stiches etc. My Dr felt the rabies vaccination would do more harm than good as I was having chemo and radiation at the time. Stats in the USA show only 2 to 3 people contract rabies annually. Still...i was a bit worried as the dog that bit me was never found.

I have a hard time believing an abuser like Mr. Cruel would just stop.  That type of thing is a life pattern.  That's why law enforcement always believes serial killers and the like, never stop, they wait, unless they are put away or die.  
A whole video on Mr. Cruel would be interesting though.

44:48 WRONG!  Rabies only lives in a deceased host for up to an hour.  About 20 minutes outside the host.  It's actually a wimpy little virus when outside the host.  Most everything kills it outside the host, including ultraviolet light.  I know quite a bit about this subject - IRL I work very closely with it and public health.

I remember Lazy Masquerade talked about Rabies once and it ruined my entire day

I like how in the end of the second story the redditor talks about how it's so creep that the plumber would watch them as if her and her family weren't doing the exact same thing. Sure they didn't setup the camera but they should have told the neighbors immediately when they realized. Instead they sat down and watched them for nearly a week before going and talking to them.

I feel so bad for that fox at the end. Like the hypothetical person and bat in the story....that animal has no idea why its doing what its doing. And you can see the scarring, the blood guess at the pain that poor thing has probably endured.