Honestly she a representation of real life, sometimes people you genuinly want to like, end up being people you despise because of a decision they made..... we're not supposed to like her. She DID SA Finn, and you're supposed to be uncomfortable. Because life is uncomfortable, and people you once tried to tolerate become unlikable. Did the show need the implied SA? debatable. But it happened, and happens everyday.

I just couldn't see LSP the same way after she seemingly forced Finn into... whatever happened after that fade-to-black. It was a poorly done joke and I would bet that it made a few viewers remember quite traumatizing things that happened in their own life, as it did me. If that 'joke' didn't exist, I'd just consider her an ok character, but...

Video shoulda mentioned that a petal fell off Finn's hand-flower in that "fade-to-back" scene, suggesting that LSP straight up deflowered him.

Isn't she a bad character on purpose though? I was never under the impression that I was supposed to like her. From the very beginning she struck me as the sort of comic relief you love to hate, so she never upset me personally beyond being annoyed with her behavior.

i never read that moment with LSP in Breezy as a joke. it didn't seem to be portrayed in a funny way to me, and the uncomfortable silence afterwards felt like it knew what it was doing? idk as someone who's experienced both overt and "quiet" SA (like coercion by someone you trust, can be confusing cause you wonder like maybe if you would have just objected harder it might not have happened) and the numbness, blank dissociation afterwards was really on point for me

the kiss n fade to black is my most hated 'joke' in my favourite show ever
to imply she forced Finn into a make-out or sex is just disgusting and her age/attitude is no excuse
it ruined LSP for me, I cannot enjoy the character anymore.... not like they really did anything good with her

"Breezy" is such a strange episode in general...from the premise being "Finn has a bunch of casual sex to numb the pain while a bee falls in love with his arm", to be infamous LSP joke, nonsensical ending and bizarre decision to bring back Finn's arm (which didn't even stick for very long). What a weird episode.

Her character development was in line with how the show evolved. The world isn't as light hearted as the early episodes let on, and people we thought was just weird and annoying at first eventually show themselves for the monsters they really are. LSP is the lesson on how letting little things slide will lead to bigger things later on.

Literally the only thing I remember about her is the episode where she SA Finn

I really really hate that they made her a r*pist. I really enjoyed her character, I loved how she talked and I thought she was funny. Luckily the r*pe episode flew over my head years ago but after rewatching Adventure time, I will never be able to look at LSP the same again.

I don't think the scene was ever meant to be read as a joke and I'm kinda surprised it was interpreted that way by this comment section. The theme of the episode was very deliberate in my opinion. To me it feels like bad media literacy

Finn was very vulnerable and coping in unhealthy ways, which allowed lsp to take advantage of him.

That being said, I think it was a clumsy writing decision to make one of the main chatacters that is supposed to be likeable into a r*pist. I also couldn't stand lsp after this episode. I guess it would have been too heavy for a kids show to deal with the aftermath, but in that case, the better alternative would have been to write a new chatacter for the assault scene.

Breezy really turned LSP from a character we tolerated to one we don't really want to see again

LSP SA'ing Finn is what made me write her off as unredeemable.

The SA really ruined her character for me. I really enjoyed her throughout the series because of her sass and ability to make me laugh. I wish her relationship with Lemongrab 3 would've came before that episode 😭

"Lumpy Space" is one of the more creative parallel dimensions in media. It's usually called something like "the in-between" or something vaguely spooky like that.

I always get the impression that LSP is a catharsis character for Pendleton, like i get the vibe that he knew and cared about someone like her and so he made a character about her. Or that Pendleton was like her as a teenager and is processing that. I think the first one the most cause i knew several girls like LSP growing up, and i saw the shitty things they did. And like LSP's assault on Finn is kind of played up for laughs, but its also really not, like there is a silence afterwards, its uncomfortable and its supposed to be. I dont think its making fun of Finn for being assaulted, I think its pointing out a very real thing that boys get assaulted too, and teenagers assault eachother sometimes, and its not okay; and when girls assault boys they dont recieve the Repercussions and concequences of it like when boys assault girls, and its a problem. They just get to go on living their life and no one talks about it, and several people would tell Finn that boys can be assaulted and he was lucky. (Which obviously doesnt happen in the show, but like they all stay friends with her, and Finn doesnt tell anyone). Idk, I just finished my first rewatch of the show, and it really made me wonder if something like that, again maybe a friend he had, did that to him. Idk, it just felt real in a quiet way.

6:54 I haven't watched a lot of this show, but this is a mindset that I wish more people had when it came to writing women in fiction. It doesn't just have to be where they're forced into the binary of existing for male characters development (not necessarily limited to romance) and an unrealistic standard of perfection marketed as empowerment. We're human beings and thus are capable of making mistakes and those mistakes and personal obstacles being portrayed in media can be just as relatable as a character's hobbies, sense of humor, or aspirations.

LSP is my least favorite character.  She's mostly just a one off annoying princess who spends most of the time either complaining, wanting to be the center of attention, or just being overall unlikable.

It also kind of makes sense to why most people don't even talk about her, because she's just a one dimensional character with no personality, other than just existing.  Which is sad, because I would have loved for LSP to grow as a character, so that she could be more likable, but the show pretty much didn't do anything for her.

I liked LSP because she was such a unique teenage girl character, to me. Yeah she’s boy-crazy and self-obsessed, but she’s also confident and ‘gross’ at the same time- like she genuinely sees herself as cool and attractive even when she’s wearing a trash bag and that’s something totally unique. She gets some good character development but I wish they’d done more instead of what they ended up doing. The Ice King has a lot more questionable “romantic” actions imo but they also dig deep into his character and who he is and why he does what he does.  

Breezy honestly completely flew over my head because it didn’t feel like the show took it seriously either. I didn’t even remember it tbh, like it feels like Ice King’s gross behavior got more attention and actual stating ‘hey people don’t like it when you treat them like this, you need to stop’. It feels more like a mistake the writers made, that they didn’t think through that moment and what it really meant, rather than something LSP would really do- but also totally understand why it makes people uncomfortable!!

The episode "Breezy" was one of if not the most criticized episode of Adventure Time, at least from what I witnessed when the show was still updating. People all over tumblr were posting trigger warnings of SA and advocating for people not to watch that episode, many of them swearing off the show entirely. The episode itself, I thought it had the right idea behind it of showing the dangers of numbing oneself to a breakup and not actually learning anything, and how i guess in this case "making out" with every woman Finn saw led to him having his own openness be taken advantage of. The issue with how it was depicted, however, is it wasn't exactly made clear enough that what LSP did was a bad thing to do (y'know, kissing Finn without his consent at the VERY least, further implications aside). It didn't really change Finn's perception of or friendship with LSP, LSP never apologized or received consequences, and as a cartoon that was largely broadcasted to an audience of children, that's a pretty dangerous thing to showcase. Like it was subtle about it, and the uncomfortable undertones and Finn spiraling further into depression were all there, and i understood what it was going for, but what really came out of it? The lack of consequences for LSP downplays it, and i'm not saying "lock her up" but if they want to write a scene with that level of maturity, then it probably shouldn't feel normalized as a result, and I think that's why so many people hate LSP not just on a "she's a bad person" level but on a "she's a bad character" level.

As a teenager going through a breakup at the time, I appreciated the episode for what it was when it came out and i guess how it touched on some difficult and more mature topics, but I agreed with the fans' criticisms too, and it wasn't as well executed as it should've been (the scene with LSP definitely should've been cut, but there were other issues with that episode as well), and I actually do remember quite a lot of people who have had actual trauma with this kinda thing feeling scarred by that episode without any warning of what would happen. I think because I was made aware of those trigger warnings before watching the episode it made it a lot easier for me to process and think critically of what was being depicted, and i definitely felt pathos for Finn as both a victim and a uhhh a guy realizing that he was a bad boyfriend (referencing how he manipulated Flame Princess that led to their breakup). The story of Finn figuring himself out and adjusting to being single again was one that resonated with me, but it was also pretty difficult to watch it unfold.