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The Dark Schizoid | When Detachment Turns Psychopathic | Ep. 55

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The Dark Schizoid | When Detachment Turns Psychopathic | Ep. 55

🎬In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) explore the complex interplay between antisocial and schizoid personalities, highlighting their similarities, differences, and potential for danger when combined. Using the well-documented case of Scottish serial killer Dennis Nilsen, we analyze how these personality traits can manifest in deadly ways, especially when mixed with other dark features.

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Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:37 Schizoid Personality Defined
01:03 Antisocial Personality Defined
01:23 How Schizoid and Antisocial Differ
02:11 Schizoid & Antisocial Similarities
02:22 Neglectful Childhood
02:52 Unresponsive to Environment
04:10 Non-Conforming
05:13 Aloofness
05:54 The Nomadic Antisocial Defined (Schizoid Overlap)
07:25 When Nomadic Antisocials Turn Dark
09:26 When Detachment Turns Psychopathic
10:27 Three Personalities Associated with Violent Crime
13:12 Serial Killer & Necrophile: Dennis Nilsen | Our Disclaimer
14:35 Dennis Nilsen’s Backstory
17:56 Nilsen’s First Murder
19:27 Our Psychoanalysis of The Murders
22:11 Did He Want to Get Caught?
23:34 Attracted to Men Resembling His Sister
24:20 Rejection of Same-Sex Attraction
25:43 Alcohol's Role in Murder
27:04 Dissection, Disposal, & Dissociation
28:25 Boiling the Skulls?
31:20 Trial & Psych Evaluators
32:07 Detachment & Curiosity: A Schizoid Dynamic
33:30 Would Prison Meet Social Needs?
35:30 Was Nilsen a Passive Affectionless Psychopath?
37:50 Enneagram Antisocial & Schizoid Overlap
38:56 Summary & Conclusion

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11 Comments

@activeresearch2678 4 months ago

Even darker than I was expecting

@storytellermich6984 4 months ago

Gender/sex must play in this, because I'm sure there are plenty of women with these traits but they don't do this. Or they just never get caught.

@mp3pio 3 months ago (edited)

Thank you for talking about this! After finding out about this "cocktail" (Vaknin's word, not mine) a few months ago, I felt I had found a description that closely fits someone in my life who did quite a lot of damage. Your conversation runs parallel to this, and puts names to some other behaviors that I hadn't typified, but still made appearances. Some reassurance about this helps so much...especially while being held in such a destructive place where touching a base is rarely available. Edit/P.S.- this person is highly covert, definitely a wrecking ball to the psyche, but thankfully NOT likely to murder humans.

@christianrokicki 2 months ago

Made me think of RFK Jr. and his penchant for collecting and dissecting dead animals…

@gregvanpaassen 4 months ago

Thanks for the very detailed outline in the video description! It was reassuring and kept me listening.

@Dead_Stars_Music 4 months ago (edited)

I'm too lazy to be a serial killer; it sounds like hard work lol im a 4

@oizyszys9308 1 month ago

We turtles only bite when backed in a corner.

@jonasmartinsen3439 4 months ago

This was hard to listen to holy shit

@interdimensionology 4 months ago

Thos is me

@vrnamnchnm4770 7 days ago

Nilsen doesn't seem like a good example of a schizoid,, he was able to have relationships even at a young age and didn't have a problem picking up victims and charming them, that doesn't seem very schizoid to me. Yes he was probably closed off but he was a gay man and it was the 60s/70s.

@reycore3608 4 months ago

I find it peculiar that, if anything, pure schizoid (well, personality can't be pure type, I'm just roughly speaking) is less likely to be involved in crime than any other personality because of its orientation towards the internal world. But when schizoid's near total disregard of imposed societal norms and any feedback from other people is combined with external-oriented sadistic or psychopathic frameworks it can lead to such cases as the one which was discussed in this episode. Truly paradoxical