Tiberian Sun Firestorm: We didn't start the fire!
Dr White
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Join me on a quest into the cyber-apocalypse of Tiberian Sun Firestorm! Watch as all the characters they couldn't afford to bring back get unceremoniously killed in the opening cutscene.
After all - Kane lives in death!
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@Aw-ev1mv 4 years ago
"CABAL reveals his true colors... A sort of light blue."
I laughed way too much at this joke
I laughed way too much at this joke
@ArnieMcStranglehold 1 year ago
One of my favorite lost-to-time mods was called something like "Civilian Tech" or such, and it allowed you to capture EVERY civilian building in the entire game. Each one had a slight benefit of some kind; solar panels gave like +5 power, one of them gave a very very small stealth field, and you could use engineers to hijack all the civilian vehicles, most of which were just 2- or 4-person APCs, but some had guns. Made the base game REALLY interesting when the opposing faction starts getting taken on by the local rogue militia.
@gguy17 4 years ago
"Our directives must be reassessed."
I always theorized that this was the moment when Kane decided that his goal would no longer be to turn all of Earth's population into tiberian lifeforms, but to use a Scrin treshold tower to do something else. Unfortunately we don't know what his new ultimate plan was as the story, so far, ends with C&C3 Kane's wrath. :,)
I always theorized that this was the moment when Kane decided that his goal would no longer be to turn all of Earth's population into tiberian lifeforms, but to use a Scrin treshold tower to do something else. Unfortunately we don't know what his new ultimate plan was as the story, so far, ends with C&C3 Kane's wrath. :,)
@meanmole3212 4 years ago
I can't fucking take it with those cabal zoom calls with random guests, too funny
@physetermacrocephalus2209 4 years ago
It's absolutely hilarious you accidentally killed that max level mammoth.
@CABAL_REBORN 4 years ago
One does not simply cheese the core defender, and yet you have done so valiantly. My commendations commander.
@Templarfreak 4 years ago (edited)
13:02 to clarify, this is the Mantauk, the subterranean mobile HQ that Slavik used for most of the original Tiberian Sun campaign, the Nod counterpart to GDI's Kodiak.
14:48 this mission can actually be a normal macro mission, too. GDI will give you Engineers (i think the intention is to be quick panic repairs for your Fist of Nod), and there's actually nothing stopping you from taking a Construction Yard. I usually go for the top base as it's much easier to destroy. Odd quirk with this mission: You can then unlock BUILDING MCVs, for some reason, and in doing so when you deploy it, it for some reason... Gives you GDI buildings you can build. Weird, lol.
Anyway, yeah, this poor game man. They had so many other things they wanted to implement that they just couldn't get around to it. Some features are even almost entirely functional but for some reason were left on the cutting room floor, like the Dropship Loadout menu.
1. Cyborg Reapers were meant to be in the base game but got cut due to some bugs before being re-introduced in Firestorm.
2. the Starport mechanic from Dune 2000 was meant to be available to GDI through the scrapped Dropship Bay building.
3. It is my understanding the Firestorm Defense System wasn't fully realized and functioning totally in the intended manner (ex: the bug with flames).
3. Threat Rating Node, which also MOSTLY works and was simply scrapped. Essentially, your units would have auto-targeting one way, but when you build the Threat Rating Node, it would "improve" their auto-targeting, focusing down higher "threat" targets.
4. Orca Transports were meant to be buildable and usable by the player, but due to some absurd bug that existed in the game until only recently fans were able to patch it, were not made available.
5. Nod was supposed to have RA1-type Spys in the form of Chameleon Spy. some of the features still work, like revealing production of an infiltrated building, and some work but with major bugs, like infiltrating radars reveals that player's revealed terrain to you, but the bug being also to everyone else in the game. revealing power level and revealing resource storage usage and capacity. im not sure if those last two are functional in TS, but the first two are.
6. Limpet Drone was originally meant to be some kind a proximity mine, but due to some limitation they scrapped the mine and made it the Limpet Drone.
7. the Chemical Spray infantry from the first C&C game was meant to make a return. for whatever reason they scrapped it. it has a fully-realized sprite in the game that goes totally unused.
8. Harpies were supposed to have rotors, but due to some kind of limitation of how their voxel rendering engine worked, could not actually be put on the graphic. it only has rotors in the sidebar icon.
9. GDI was meant to have a dedicated tiberium vein clearing unit, but this unit was scrapped due to being redundant (since GDI can just easily kill the veinhole).
10. there was a GDI "Command Center" building that got scrapped. it's unclear what it would have done, possibly just acting as a Tech Center.
11. originally, GDI's Radar was meant to act as the pluggable structure instead of the Upgrade Center. there was multiple balance concerns with this, ranging from it'd be too easy for GDI to tech, to it would also be a huge loss if this Radar was destroyed since Radars are typically a semi-high priority target when attacking someone's base.
12. Nod was originally meant to have their own Repair Bay.
13. the EMP Cannon was meant to be only for Nod at one point.
14. there was an entire scrapped lighting system that was meant to at least affect the accuracy of units, higher light = more accuracy. to go in conjunction with this, there was going to be buildable light posts that would illuminate a large area. i believe that how much accuracy a unit had baseline and how much accuracy they get from being in good lighting and how much accuracy they give a unit for being in good lighting was going to vary from unit to unit.
15. Spotlight Towers were originally meant to be buildable and would have gone along with said lighting system, units targeted by the spotlight tower would have things targeting it have further improved accuracy. essentially, the spotlight tower would have provided maximum lighting onto a targeted unit.
16. the Turbine Power Plant that GDI has was originally intended for Nod.
17. Airstrikes from the first game were intended to make a return.
18. there was meant to be a superweapon that would be available to whoever captured a neutral Mutant building that would give them a commando reinforcements of Umagon, Tratos (acting as a vehicle hijacker) and Ghost Stalker with a handful of Tiberium Fiends.
19. Hunter Seeker was a buildable unit and was intended to have most of the functionality the current Limpet Drone has and were meant to have a detonation feature, where at any time you could destroy the vehicle it was attached to, as well as give you more information about the unit.
20. instead of the Cluster Missile, Nod's main superweapon was originally meant to be a normal missile like in the first game, except you had the option of picking 1 real target location and 2 fake target locations.
21. scrapped support power for GDI that would just reveal a small area for free, kinda like Yuri's Psychic Reveal in Red Alert 2.
14:48 this mission can actually be a normal macro mission, too. GDI will give you Engineers (i think the intention is to be quick panic repairs for your Fist of Nod), and there's actually nothing stopping you from taking a Construction Yard. I usually go for the top base as it's much easier to destroy. Odd quirk with this mission: You can then unlock BUILDING MCVs, for some reason, and in doing so when you deploy it, it for some reason... Gives you GDI buildings you can build. Weird, lol.
Anyway, yeah, this poor game man. They had so many other things they wanted to implement that they just couldn't get around to it. Some features are even almost entirely functional but for some reason were left on the cutting room floor, like the Dropship Loadout menu.
1. Cyborg Reapers were meant to be in the base game but got cut due to some bugs before being re-introduced in Firestorm.
2. the Starport mechanic from Dune 2000 was meant to be available to GDI through the scrapped Dropship Bay building.
3. It is my understanding the Firestorm Defense System wasn't fully realized and functioning totally in the intended manner (ex: the bug with flames).
3. Threat Rating Node, which also MOSTLY works and was simply scrapped. Essentially, your units would have auto-targeting one way, but when you build the Threat Rating Node, it would "improve" their auto-targeting, focusing down higher "threat" targets.
4. Orca Transports were meant to be buildable and usable by the player, but due to some absurd bug that existed in the game until only recently fans were able to patch it, were not made available.
5. Nod was supposed to have RA1-type Spys in the form of Chameleon Spy. some of the features still work, like revealing production of an infiltrated building, and some work but with major bugs, like infiltrating radars reveals that player's revealed terrain to you, but the bug being also to everyone else in the game. revealing power level and revealing resource storage usage and capacity. im not sure if those last two are functional in TS, but the first two are.
6. Limpet Drone was originally meant to be some kind a proximity mine, but due to some limitation they scrapped the mine and made it the Limpet Drone.
7. the Chemical Spray infantry from the first C&C game was meant to make a return. for whatever reason they scrapped it. it has a fully-realized sprite in the game that goes totally unused.
8. Harpies were supposed to have rotors, but due to some kind of limitation of how their voxel rendering engine worked, could not actually be put on the graphic. it only has rotors in the sidebar icon.
9. GDI was meant to have a dedicated tiberium vein clearing unit, but this unit was scrapped due to being redundant (since GDI can just easily kill the veinhole).
10. there was a GDI "Command Center" building that got scrapped. it's unclear what it would have done, possibly just acting as a Tech Center.
11. originally, GDI's Radar was meant to act as the pluggable structure instead of the Upgrade Center. there was multiple balance concerns with this, ranging from it'd be too easy for GDI to tech, to it would also be a huge loss if this Radar was destroyed since Radars are typically a semi-high priority target when attacking someone's base.
12. Nod was originally meant to have their own Repair Bay.
13. the EMP Cannon was meant to be only for Nod at one point.
14. there was an entire scrapped lighting system that was meant to at least affect the accuracy of units, higher light = more accuracy. to go in conjunction with this, there was going to be buildable light posts that would illuminate a large area. i believe that how much accuracy a unit had baseline and how much accuracy they get from being in good lighting and how much accuracy they give a unit for being in good lighting was going to vary from unit to unit.
15. Spotlight Towers were originally meant to be buildable and would have gone along with said lighting system, units targeted by the spotlight tower would have things targeting it have further improved accuracy. essentially, the spotlight tower would have provided maximum lighting onto a targeted unit.
16. the Turbine Power Plant that GDI has was originally intended for Nod.
17. Airstrikes from the first game were intended to make a return.
18. there was meant to be a superweapon that would be available to whoever captured a neutral Mutant building that would give them a commando reinforcements of Umagon, Tratos (acting as a vehicle hijacker) and Ghost Stalker with a handful of Tiberium Fiends.
19. Hunter Seeker was a buildable unit and was intended to have most of the functionality the current Limpet Drone has and were meant to have a detonation feature, where at any time you could destroy the vehicle it was attached to, as well as give you more information about the unit.
20. instead of the Cluster Missile, Nod's main superweapon was originally meant to be a normal missile like in the first game, except you had the option of picking 1 real target location and 2 fake target locations.
21. scrapped support power for GDI that would just reveal a small area for free, kinda like Yuri's Psychic Reveal in Red Alert 2.
@RecolitusMorbus 3 years ago (edited)
I can't, for the life of me, think of a better game other than Tiberium Dawn. TibDawn was my very first game. I come back to it like you come back to TibSun.
It reminds me of simpler times where there were no responsibilities to occupy my mind during all the hours of the waking day; where Tiberium Dawn, Tiberium Sun, and StarCraft/Brood Wars soothed all wounds; where all I had to worry about was when the next Brian Jacques Redwall novel would arrive by mail once their paperback editions were announced.
I miss those days. I miss them so very much.
It reminds me of simpler times where there were no responsibilities to occupy my mind during all the hours of the waking day; where Tiberium Dawn, Tiberium Sun, and StarCraft/Brood Wars soothed all wounds; where all I had to worry about was when the next Brian Jacques Redwall novel would arrive by mail once their paperback editions were announced.
I miss those days. I miss them so very much.
@Kurorahk 4 years ago
Hey I'm one of those ancient modders, grew up modding the game and spent years on Project Perfect Mod and a few other sites digging through things, trying to figure out things like how to make Dropships properly work, trying to make hologram units (as in a unit makes holograms of itself, resulted in some wacky stuff). Even was once part of a mod team, even have some assets on a few small sites at one point. Sadly I think all but like 4-5 voxels I kept through the decades between machines have been lost to the digital wasteland. But it was a fun 8 years from 2000 to 2008 for modding TS and RA2. And TS holds a special place in my heart as the first game I bought with my own money, I played that game to death and am glad it is still technically playable even today. Even if it requires setting my resolution to tiny and if I want to show friends I have to use a capture card on the monitor that's going to have it running on. What a wonderful buggy weird game and series. I really do miss TibSun's take on the universe, it's visuals, storytelling, and just the way things felt to actually have stakes left it's mark on me and where I have gone as an artist, writer, and engineer turned prop maker.
@tomthemad 4 years ago
Both of these Tib Sun videos really hit my friend and I in the nostalgia feels(I remember seeing a cardboard display at a store and losing my small child mind in excitement), and despite playing the game off and on since it released I still learned new things about the games. Great videos!
@WanderlustZero 4 years ago
Ahhhh, yes. The Demo Ion truck. Legendary. Every detonation would shorten the lifespan of my crappy early 2000s PC and induce chronic slowdown as my screen entirely filled with Ion blasts
@alternistom 4 years ago
I love this and the base game for it's atmosphere, funny to see myself spinning it for at least once a year since it's release in 1999
@Marc_Araujo 4 years ago (edited)
Here's to waiting on the release of Command & Conquer: Remastered Collection II.
Tiberian Sun Firestorm: We didn't start the fire!
Dr White
322,484 views
Join me on a quest into the cyber-apocalypse of Tiberian Sun Firestorm! Watch as all the characters they couldn't afford to bring back get unceremoniously killed in the opening cutscene.
After all - Kane lives in death!
Want to support me to make more videos?
Donate to my kofi at: https://ko-fi.com/drwhitespider.
WILL I MAKE A RA2/C&C3 VIDEO?
Short answer; Yes. I do want a break from RTS and the C&C setting for a bit, but I am definitely going to cover them in the future.
SO WHATS THE NEXT VIDEO?
If the segment at the end didn't reveal it; Mechwarrior 4. After that I'm doing Outpost 2.
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL YEAR?
Graduating from Uni. I'm a real games developer now!