The Reality of Being Born in a Petri Dish | Katy Faust

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Since the sexual revolution and the introduction of no-fault divorce in 1969, the institution of marriage in America has undergone a profound transformation.

Katy Faust, founder of children’s rights organization Them Before Us and co-author of a book by the same name, argues that marriage has changed from a permanent, child-centered union, to a vehicle for adult fulfillment.

And now new reproductive technologies—from IVF to surrogacy—are making parenthood possible in ways never seen before.

For many, this is progress. But at what cost?

Faust argues that for decades, we have prioritized adult desire over a child’s fundamental right to be known, loved, and raised by their biological mother and father.

In this episode, she walks me through many complex questions: what makes something a natural right? What is the true impact of divorce on children? Why isn’t surrogacy just a neutral transaction? And for countries facing shrinking birth rates, why is IVF perhaps not the right solution?


00:00 “Love Makes a Family”
01:25 Background & Motivation
05:20 Rights Framework & Same-Sex Marriage
09:55 Sponsor Message
11:30 Donor Conception & Children’s Desires
13:14 Sacrifice of Children
18:22 Bond Between Parent and Child
26:24 The Costs of No-Fault Divorce
33:23 Biological Identity & Open Adoption
39:24 Accusations of Religious Motive
41:35 Entering the Fertility Debate
44:04 IVF and Child Victimization
47:11 Donor-Conceived vs Adoptees
49:53 What’s Lost Through Surrogacy
59:14 Adoption Philosophy
1:02:32 Pushback from All Sides
1:04:52 Cohabitation vs Marriage
1:08:39 Global Children’s Rights Movement


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