good to see you

psychology of coyle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luyeWyOf7l4
psychology of franco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k_L1Ja2At0
psychologies of otto & arora: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iCZH6N_zVk

Chapters:

0:00 sergeant leland coyle has a message for me personally allegedly (thank you jakefiber!)
0:19 who is phyllis 'mother gooseberry' futterman?
3:48 doctor futterman was a horrible person!
5:35 how well did doctor futterman hide his horribleness?
7:00 does gooseberry think it's all her fault?
7:51 suppression of anger and desire
9:05 gooseberry's unhealthy attachment to her father
9:41 precarious maintenance of delusions
10:22 escapism, fantasy, and the television
13:02 gooseberry's obsessive provision of 'fun'
13:16 Did you forget it or not? Did you forget it?
13:22 fun equated to anarchy as a result of repression
14:54 gooseberry's own self-indulgence
15:54 doctor futterman... this is all your fault!!!
17:44 did murkoff reduce gooseberry's inhibitions as well? (thank you red llama!)
18:20 subconscious rebellion against her father
18:46 why gooseberry needs puppet futterman
20:01 how in control is gooseberry of her multiple personalities?
22:22 inconsistencies of behaviour and belief (yea guys the analysis is completely unplayable)
23:23 gooseberry. so sorry! coyle. thy fiend...
24:31 addendums to the psychology of coyle
24:45 sergeant leland coyle has a message for me personally allegedly (thank you jakefiber!) Part Two
25:14 Did anyone tell you I wasn’t happy and I was the only one left to bear it? Has anyone inadvertently mentioned what I missed? I didn’t Dodge.

Not enough people talk about Gooseberry's voice actress. She is absolutely incredible.

""even if she wont admit outright that her father mistreated her, she still recognizes that what she went through is something no child should ever endure"" IM FUCKING CRYING

I think the most tragic thing about Gooseberry in my opinion is the fact that she's the only prime asset who's life could have been saved through something as simple as therapy (not the Murkoff kind) or just having real friends in her life. Coyle is a product of his environment, he pursued a life of power and hate, letting it corrupt his already corrupted mind. Franco was a child of a mob boss, he was never going to turn out an upstanding citizen, and the Kress twins are rich. Even if they were born separated, they would've been the cruel monsters they still are. But whereas the others were either born into lives of cruelty or chose to pursue them, Gooseberry chose to make children smile. She pursued a life of joy, trying to make the world a better place by being a friend to the lonely children like her - to overcome her fathers wickedness. It just makes her fall more tragic - compared to what she was, she's fallen so hard into the depths of depravity it makes her stand out against the other primes - their trial environments are reflections of the lives they lived, Gooseberry's are a reflection of a woman she doesn't recognise, she never was running an orphanage, a fun park or a factory, these places are part of the Mother Gooseberry persona, they're a charicature, they're pretend. There's nowhere Phyllis Futterman can be reflected, so she gives herself up entirely to the fiction - "Not even a person anymore. But a song. Looping in the heads of children, like butterflies and fairytales. Who could tell me no?"

I would argue its likely not out of character for her father to compliment her. From my experience of abuse, the abuser will sometimes have moments where they apologize or genuinely come off as sincere. The victim tends to latch onto these moments because of how uncommon they are. Judging by the fact that Gooseberry loved her father so much that she took the effort to revive him via a puppet tells me that despite his abuse, there likely were quite a few moments where she would agree she felt happy under his control.

I think the reason she keeps insulting herself with the puppet voice is because she misses her dad and all she really has to remember him by is the abuse and shes clearly never gotten the proper help for the trauma so she kinda latches onto it like “hey it’s like I’m a child again and daddy is calling me names. It’s like he’s still here”

An underappreciated part of Gooseberry is how, despite all her madness and possibly being the most drugged up and delusion person in the trials, she might still be the smartest and most perceptive. She built her own puppets from scratch and the very intro of the game has her summarize exactly what Murkoff is trying to do; scrub the Reagents brain clean and replace it with their own programming, something that Coyle doesn't bother to give any thought to and something Franco doesn't care much about other than knowing he's a test subject. Meanwhile here's Gooseberry laying the entire summary of the experiment out using nothing but her observation skills, she also happens to snap out of her delusions for a moment when Amelia shows off that Murkoff can be beaten when they get sloppy, I like to think she knows she has a shot at escaping the building if she can find a similar opening that Amelia did and possibly be the catalyst for how Project LATHE 2 really begins to fall, whenever we need to get to the point of wrapping the main story up anyways

I think the fact that she's so clearly based visually on Leatherface is a big indicator that she's not fully in control of her actions. He is very famously way too mentally disabled to be fully responsible for what he does and I think Phyllis's psychosis and other various mental problems put her in a similar position.

Hi!  I’m someone who was diagnosed with hypersexuality so I can kinda talk about it and how’s it’s affected me and other people who struggle from it! So hypersexuality in clinical terms is : repeated and intense sexual fantasies, urges and behaviors, meaning that Mother gooseberry having many people who she engages with in a sexual manner that she can’t control ( most people with hypersexuality can’t control our urges or how we feel, it’s hard and often super harmful to our mental health). With Mother gooseberry’s hypersexuality I can  definitely say it came from when her father possibly preyed on her when she was younger due to not having another female figure in the picture: Doctor Futterman turned his sights on his daughter causing obvious childhood trauma that roots itself in her mind manifesting hypersexuality. One thing when someone wit HS is once we are…finished with an act or indulging in an urge we feel guilty and a lot of regret because of said acts. A lot of these urges can ruin parts of our life too.
For Mother gooseberry I kinda relate to her in the sense of childhood trauma from a family member (mine wasn’t caused by my father but my older cousin) and I think she sees herself nothing as an object of sexual desire( I.e sleeping with two prison guards) and also sometimes reliving the traumatic experiences when younger. She relieves the abuse via her father degrading he probably when Phylis got older she grew into her body and her father just degraded her into thinking no one wanted her because of being “fat”.  The dynamic is very well thought out in the sense of abuser and victim with Phylis still abusing herself because of her kinda trauma bond with her father, she almost can’t live without him so she develops puppet futterman to fufill the hole after he’s died

The thing about having an abusive,  narcissistic,  and neglectful parent is that you're psychologically "huanted" by that parent. You mentally replay the abuse on loop nonstop. It doesn't stop unless you're medicated. At least, that's my personal experience. Even medicated the intrusive and ruminating thoughts are still there, but not as intense.

Phyllis didn't "resurrect" her father. Psychologically,  he never died. He lives rent-free in her head. The puppet is just an external manifestation of her chronic obsessing over her dad.

Mother Gooseberry is female Norman Bates.

she psychology on my mother till i gooseberry

From the way it seems, it appears that Phyllis has three separate personalities:

1. Doctor Futterman, who is probably a mix of a few things. First, a manifestation of her inability to cope with the loss of her father, as well as her codependency with him (he was her abuser, but at the same time, he was the only person she had in her life. Now that he's dead, he is a literal manifestation of her trauma haunting her). He keeps her from being alone, and living with the reality of his death, possibly by her own hand. Second, He might be a manifestation of her self loathing, and rage. He treats Phyllis like garbage, but at the same time egges her onward, acting as a supporting figure in her violence. He gives her the reassuring voice to enact her impulses, while at the same time reassuring her of her insecurities.

2. Mother Gooseberry. She is essentially Phyllis as a little girl, while also a child that feels like she has to put on a face of a maturnal, happy caregiver/Assistant role for both the children in her care and her father (hypersexulized and parentified by her father). She essentially fronts in the place of Phyllis in that she gets to be a child again, doesn't have to be the person to internalize her father's constant abuse, is well liked by the children, and gets to actually act on her impulses. She is an aggressive personality that has violent tantrums and outbursts because Gooseburry is both a shield and an outlet. She keeps Phyllis from having to relive her childhood as an adult, while at the same time allowing her to release her repressed desires and feelings.


3. Phyllis herself. There are points in which her original personality does come through. Where she is wondering why the children are acting strange, why the days keep looping over and over again. She also appears to be aware of the Mother Gooseburry personality (ex: her apologizing to "Mother", saying she wont do "it" again.) This aspect of Phyllis is an extremely broken adult that cannot cope with her reality. Essentially, Futterman and Gooseburry's jobs are to protect Phyllis from reality, to hide her from it. Futterman acts like her still living father, and even tells Phyllis at one point when her personality comes through, "Did you forget to take your medication Phyllis?" Meanwhile, Mother Gooseburry gets to allow Phyllis to safely relive the past (Both Gooseburry and Futterman constantly say lines about "taking care of the children", and "being on the show") as a younger version of Phyllis. I believe that Phyllis may have been dissociating long before her father's death (Goosebury fronting for Phyllis growing up to cope with years of abuse, and reliving her childhood via the show she was on), and the death of her father may have split her identity even further.

If I'm not mistaken, Gooseberry's condition is more akin to OSDD- aka "Other Specified Dissociative Disorder" -than DID. A hallmark of DID is that patients can't control when and where their alters front, and they experience memory lapses when fronting DOES occur. Gooseberry, however, seems to have some modicum of control over switching, or at the very least switches between personalities so fast that there's no time for her to "forget" what happened.


But I digress. I enjoyed this video! Keep up the good work :D

I read a comment somewhere saying how Dr. Futterman having a drill coming out of him is especially disturbing if you think about a duck’s ‘anatomy’ (if you know what I mean)

during the "don't you push my daughter" voiceline, it seems she isnt usually in doctor futterman's voice like she is for the verbal abuse voicelines. infact her respective voice seems to seep through her tone. It could resemble how the sudden protectiveness is unnatural for phyllis and that shes trying to make it seem real like what you were implying

I think her dad probably died of natural-ish causes and the reason his body was never found is because she used her taxidermy skills to make something with it.

I think the reason for Gooseberry's inconsistent reality is just lapses of lucidity.
It's like when you want to do something, you do it, you like that you're doing it, and then all of a sudden, you're like,
"Why am I doing this? This is stupid."
Gooseberry knows her dad is dead and that she's stuck inside a cold, steel prison, but she only accepts that when her brain lets her accept it. Also, the reason she has Dr. Futterman apologize to her is because of what happens in many abusive relationships, which is known as lovebombing. If you do nothing but hurt someone, they'll think you're bad. If you give them bits and pieces of care after hurting them, they'll be afraid to leave.

“SHE’S GOT NO HAIR ON HER SCALP” 🗣️🔥 0:49

I heard someone say that gooseberry doesn’t actually have DID due to her acknowledging that he is just a puppet in one voice line and that the puppet basically admits that her father died from a combo of gin and drugs. I don’t think she has DID personally, I think it’s just her own stream of consciousness that she plays into to get a small amount of distance from her actual situation and feelings

The writing of Red Barrels is so interesting, cause you’ll come to learn about the astonishingly nuanced psychologies that fit the broken minds of the prime assets, and then immediately get slapped in the face with “mother gooseberry killed 2 cops and injured 5 more in a standoff with nothing but a drill.”
Like, am I crazy? These are just normal people with abnormal convictions. Sure, they can hunt down upwards of four malnourished reagents, but there’s only so much you can do against a squad of trained officers all wielding lethal firearms.