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Grindelwald Was NEVER Master of the Elder Wand | Harry Potter Film Theory

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Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to discuss the path of The Elder Wand.. or perhaps lack there of - to prove that Grindelwald was never a master and WHY Dumbledore and Harry were!

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20 Comments

@coolnerdlll6053 2 years ago

I absolutely love that Mads Mikkelsen has now played characters in Star Wars, James Bond, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones and the MCU. Put him in a Batman movie and the circle is complete. He'd make a good Ra's Al Ghul.

@bghiggy 2 years ago

I feel like Dumbledore repaired Hagrids wand and then transfigured it into an umbrella so nobody would know

@blakdeth 2 years ago

I've been saying this after a lot of your master of the elder wand videos. I've always thought that the wands true master from the beginning through even grindlewald was death, so only a master of death could be its new master. And I don't think it matters at what point you get the hallows. Dumbledore and Harry are the only two people who ever had all 3 hallows in their possession at some point.

@johngilbert8898 2 years ago

Couldn't agree more with this theory - there's actually another dumbledore line that backs this up too in the King's Cross scene I think, where he says - "I was fit only to possess the meanest of them, the least extraordinary. I was fit to own the Elder Wand, and not to boast of it, and not to kill with it. I was permitted to tame and to use it, because I took it, not for gain, but to save others from it.” This suggests dumbledore had also worked out that the hallows work this way.

@svenpup 2 years ago

Too bad we already know that the elder wand has a core of Thestral tail hair. A Qilin hair core would make sense as it is able to perceived someone to be worthy.

@kaspedkk 2 years ago

The Elder Wand's allegiance is said to favor a wizard who's conquered death. But what does that mean?

"The last enemy that shall be conquered is death" is a central theme. For Voldemort and the Death Eaters, it's about defying death, aiming for immortality out of fear. But Harry and Dumbledore see it differently. They believe in accepting death, greeting it "as an old friend". This can tied to the quote in a convo between them, "It was, he thought, the difference between being dragged into the arena to face a battle to the death and walking into the arena with your head held high."

Harry's experience with the Deathly Hallows makes him the "Master of Death." It's not about fearing death but accepting it. Voldemort's fear, on the other hand, meant he could never truly command the Elder Wand. -> This would also explain why dark wizards keep losing it. For they are great in power, but they would never be able to unlock its "unbeatable" proponent.

In short, the Elder Wand values wisdom over strength. It's not about defying death but embracing it, and that's the true key to its power.
That way it also makes Hermione right in saying that its about the wizard far more than the wand. And we all know Hermione is always right in the end.

@Oxnypognip 2 years ago

I’d never even thought about the whole Death Eaters’ wands thing before. The only thing I can come up with is that because wands keep a record of what spells they’ve used, the ministry kept them for bookkeeping since it’s already a pre-made filing system

@Ariner-M 2 years ago

Harry's not defending himself in the forest made "all the difference" because it's exactly what Harry's mother had done. Voldemort offered to let her live if she stood aside, but she defiantly stood before him, completely unarmed, and forced him to kill her to get to Harry. Harry even explains this to "Riddle" as they had their final duel in the Great Hall, pointing out that Voldemort's spells were not binding on the people in Hogwarts after Harry's death.

@kielsonelnikos8589 2 years ago (edited)

Another thing that separate both Dumbledore and Harry to others is the way they both didn't fear death.

@ArniesTech 2 years ago

Seamus spell igniting Opoenheimers nuclear bomb absolutely killed me 😂😂😂

@JustACactus616 2 years ago

What if Snape was actually nice to Harry and friends? (Barth Crouch Sr survives? Harry masters potions and OCCLUMENCY?)

@jmeyer5able 2 years ago

In my head cannon Death was the original master of the elder wand. That’s why most people who use it end up dead: it’s still serving it’s true master. When Harry dies in the forest and comes back to life he is the first person to actually conquer death. (Voldemort didn’t technically die in Godric’s Hollow) I also believe the Dumbledore replaced Hagrid’s wand instead of fixing it. It just had to be disguised since he wasn’t allowed to practice magic. Or Dumbledore could have given Hagrid a similar wand to the one he gave Jacob.

@kalcheus 2 years ago

But what about Dumbledore's portrait confirming Harry's supposition that dying without being bested would end the wand's power? If the wand doesn't need a master, then Harry dying wouldn't end the power of the Elder Wand, it would just wait for someone else to be worthy.

@sunilpermaul7876 2 years ago

In my mind, Dumbledore couldn't fix a fully broken wand, but he could use the pieces. I always believed Dumbledore transfigured the broken pieces of Hagrid's wand using the umbrella as a medium. (it would be cool if the umbrella had a backstory as to why it works as a medium).

@rabrojonel 2 years ago

This makes so much sense. The lore around the deathly hallows is thick, so it makes sense that the object really exists but doesn't work quite the way it was supposed to according to legend.

@TrevorMorning-v1c 2 years ago

I like to think that when Harry was explaining to Voldemort why he was the master of the Elder wand, it was just like 'hhmm... That's a solid argument, I guess I'm his now.'

@dexoutgaming229 2 years ago

I have always been under the assumption that Draco's wand didn't signal to the wand, but that in the final duel the Elder Wand locked horns with the wand that had already disarmed its owner, and shifted allegiances to the same wizard said wand currently held

@TeachMeBert 2 years ago (edited)

Regarding the "Harry becomes the master of the Elder Wand by taking Draco's wand" thing, J.K. has actually explained it already:

"Arthur (J.K.'s American editor) said, God, that's the moment when the ownership of the Elder wand is actually transferred? And I said, that's right. He said, shouldn't that be a bit more dramatic? And I said, no, not at all, the reverse.

I said to Arthur, I think it really puts the elaborate, grandiose plans of Dumbledore and Voldemort in their place. That actually the history of the wizarding world hinged on two teenage boys wrestling with each other. They weren't even using magic. It became an ugly little corner tussle for the possession of wands.

And I really liked that - that very human moment, as opposed to these two wizards who were twitching strings and manipulating and implanting information and husbanding information and guarding information, you know? Ultimately it just came down to that, a little scuffle and fistfight in the corner and pulling a wand away."

"The secret of the elder wand is that it's more sentient than any other. It can identify the caster of any spell that touches it and keeps tally of which wizard has beaten which, giving its allegiance to the one it judges the victor. Physical possession is irrelevant."

Draco was the master of the Elder Wand.

@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 2 years ago (edited)

Technically speaking,a wizard can force their magic through anything,a wand is just significantly better (presumably because of the magical cores). A broke wand inside an umbrella might make the umbrella slightly more magical than a regular umbrella so it would be a tad easier to use magic with. Although,in that case,Harry should still have been able to use his broken wand to cast magic, it would just be much less effective than an actual wand but more effective than a twig. I do agree Hagrid's wand was probably fixed though

@1YoungRoyalty1 2 years ago

It would also explain why, if Voldemort was using the killing curse (a curse that is unblockable,) Harry was able to not only block it, but send it back.